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13th March, 2008
Yet another scorcher and our State now has the
Australian record for the 11th straight day over 35
degrees and it is going to at least 15 according to
the forecast. Bush Fires yesterday and today and
tomorrow is 40 degrees in the shade.
Up early again and I bit the bullet on the young QH
Boy. I rode him yesterday for 5 minutes and this
morning I followed Mrs. HP straight out the gate and
around one of our arenas here. 5 minutes of that and
then I split off and went exploring the property for
the rest. The thing is that this horse is another
A.D.D. Child and with these, regardless that they
wouldn't have a clue how to do anything, I get them
straight out of the confines of the Round Pen as
they are far safer being shell shocked than thinking
you are looking after your best interests by staying
in. We completed the ride knowing much more than
when we started, like what the Hell leg might mean
lol.
I handed my lovely Clydie Filly over to the Boss
this morning, day 13 from scratch and here she is.
Like so many young horses with heavy
bloodlines...they can move. Check this out.
Anyhow, that is about it for the day. By 9am it was
about enough. By the way, remember the Adelaide Cup
was shifted back 40 minutes to 4.30 the other day
hahahaha. It was 35,6 degrees in the shade at 7pm
today. Take your hands out of your pockets Boys :)
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LETTERS OF THE DAY
Good Morning
After a bit of advice.
I rode a horse the weekend (9yo WB Gelding 17hh,
sound,16K). Was very quiet and nice natured ( & I
know he wasn't drugged)
The owner then took him to my coachs property to
ride as a trial. I rode him in the walk and then
asked for trott on the left rein and he took off
with me- spun to the right and cantered to the other
end of the arena. I had been on him for about 1
minute when this happened.
Now the owner had ridden him for about 20 minutes
and he was a little hyper with her but fine. My
problem is I have seen the potential of how calm he
can be when he is at home but he was very strong,
trying to dominate me and intimidate when he was
out. He was also not behaved for my coach but they
worked through it a bit more.
The other thing I noticed was that on the ground he
did not respect anyone's space and when getting him
back into the float he slipped his halter off and
went off walking to see other horses. His owner
stood in front of him and tried to stop him and he
practically walked on her.
The owner called me last night and said it was
probably because I am not used to a snaffle (which
is misguided) and also that I am used to riding
school masters (this is true but I have also ridden
several other horses of different ages and
experience but yes they were all quiet horses). I
have had horses shy and buck with me but never spin
and canter off. I was in shock so wasn't quick
enough to stop him from turning and once he went he
was determined to go. At one stage he put his head
down as well but I didn't tense the rein so he
didn't look to buck (that's how it felt but my coach
said he didn't look like he would) Apparently he is
fine out and she is happy for me to come with her
and see her ride him in a dressage test.
I guess my question really is - do you think this
horses ground manners has resulted in him feeling
like he can bully and intimidate in the saddle as
well.
& also he is a lovely moving and well put together
horse. Is my expectation that he be that well
behaved unrealistic? (or am I being too fussy??)
thanks
Barb
Hi Barb, as explanation to the readers', I will say
that we saw you ride here when you tested our horse
out for purchase. Of course we assessed you then and
we are both of the firm opinion that you had better
be very careful as you are not yet at the level that
we could call you a 'warmblood Rider. It is ironic
that the one you rode here was probably one of the
few in the Country that would have suited you but
that's water under the Bridge. We also knew and
discussed as Husbands and Wife's do that evening,
that you would be in real danger of injury as you
went forward in your search for a Warmblood Horse,
given your level of experience, the Crooks out there
and the fact that you were looking inside that
particular Breed for a Horse. I really only have two
words for you about that Horse, 'walk away! but of
course I can't shut up :) You have met a real
suspect Horse there and you were a lucky Girl. Move
on. Apart from the fact of what he did, the bad sign
is the head down. Ever seen the bolting Ponies on
little Kids at the Show???? That is what you face
with that Horse. I agree with you, snaffle or not,
shouldn't matter, should it? By the way, that Ginnie
continues to surprise us completely. She is doing
sequence changes now and has come into self carriage
as well as much more naturally forward with it. She
was sold shortly after you saw her but EI has seen
Mrs. HP continue to ride and ride and ride :) Now
tonight, the owner wants her here another 4 weeks as
her arena has been delayed :) Poor Linda. Keep
safe.
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Hello John,
Been awhile since I last wrote, well the big boy
(rogue who come to see you) is enjoying life with my
mare out in the paddock, his face tells it all with
just the soft look and relief in the eyes, he has
been out since September last year so he is getting
a much need brake from it all.
So since he has been out with my mare my foal has
been in who is now 15mths old and I tell you the
rope halter is a thing of beauty I can walk her for
k’s out in the bush no troubles at all with telling
her who’s boss, and she most definitely walks behind
me not over the top of me like you seen my big boy
doing. As soon as she even sounds like jumping
forward all I have to do is put my hands up and she
stays away from jumping on me which is good. I have
trained her to self load in the horse float, so I
only have to put the back down and she is straight
in no worries, her latest thing she did was, I was
washing the inside of the float from one side of the
divider and she Loves the hose, so she saw fit to
walk up the other side of the inside of the float
and let me wash her, I have never had a horse self
load let alone let me wash them in the float, so I
didn’t argue. I have had a saddle on her, and our
recent accomplishment was going around a track (5km
roughly) with my daughter on her Shetland, I was in
the saddle on Freckles (that’s her name 15mth Arab x
Quarter horse) and at a walk with light trotting
just in the rope halter (with two leads as reins of
course) we had done this twice, and she isn’t all
peaches she had tried her hand at dumping me a
couple of times but a quick growl following a light
smack on the neck is enough to make her think twice
for a while…..
I plan on purchasing you dvd on mouthing and wanted
your opinion on when was the best time to start
mouthing a horse, I personally unless you state
otherwise was just going to wait until she is a 2yr
old so she develops a bit better teeth wise and just
continue with the halter work, I do figure that if I
can control her in a halter and ride that this will
help when it comes to the bit, especially since I
would like my daughter to eventually be able to ride
her as well. She is fantastic for me to lead my
daughter on no worries around the stables, I have
had a many people tell me to mouth her now or start
putting a bit in her mouth but I am in no hurry and
they are all surprised on how well I am doing with
her and in a halter (think I am show them up a
little hehehe)
Anyway enough of writing you a novel with wait for
your response and with catch soon
Cheers
Angela
Hi Angela, good to see you are going ok. I feel a
little embarrassed in answering you truthfully as
you are on such a Natural High :) but in reality,
you only get one shot at the best Mouth and riding
in Halters actually takes away the chance of
achieving exellence in the long run. That's not to
say that you still won't end up with a pretty
reasonable one but in my experience, never a 10.
There are many reasons for that and you had better
not start me cause we will be here all night but
rope halters and the like show the young horse the
glimpse of the road to resistance and of course,
they are born to resist :) Mind you, you have done
well. Had any flack about the age? I had better say
that you are a wee slip of a thing :) I prefer them
3 Angela but as I said, take her slow and with your
weight you may be ok. It's hard to wait, isn't it :)
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Hi John,
I had a little chuckle while reading about horses
and their prefered water buckets!
I wanted to relate something, but felt too shy to
speak until now, as I thought I was being
imaginatively silly:-
Having worked in some of the richest hotel kitchens
in London, I will forever live by the rule "If the
quality is so poor you can't put it in your mouth,
don't serve it up on someone's plate".
I have therefore, for the last 5 years, emptied out
and scrubbed clean every water container in each of
my 3 paddocks daily!
Then filled them up with fresh water.
Each paddock has a 50 litre container.
The mare and 2 foals will empty their container bar
the last 1 inch every 24 hours.
The 5 youngsters drink 3/4 of their container and
the 4 in the other paddock drink about 1/2 of theirs
each day.
So I fill them accordingly to ensure the least
amount of wastage when I clean them out the next
day.
A few weeks ago hubby remembered to fill the troughs
as he happens to be passing, but he wasn't aware
about his wife's water-wasting ways, and instead of
emptying, scrubbing clean and refilling, he simply
turned on the taps!
Later in the day I found the troughs were still
full.
The next day, the troughs were still full of water!!
Are they REALLY that fussy? Or is this a learned
behaviour?
Have I taught my ponies to ONLY accept fresh water?
I remember the 'new arrivals' drinking water from
the ditches and puddles a few months ago, how could
that be any cleaner than 2 day old water from a
bucket!!!???
So I got busy emptying the troughs, washing them
thoroughly, turned on the taps and the poor beggas,
from one paddock to the next were drinking straight
from the taps they were so thirsty!!
Sarah.
Hell Sarah, sound like some of the Teenagers these
days hahahaha. I tell you what, you couldn't do that
here. You would be locked up. Luckily for you, New
Zealand may be 30 years behind us but in the end
Girl, you won't be doing that!!. Horses are
suspicous buggers and they do not like change. I
would think that is what is occuring but how are
they? Do they think they are Royalty>??
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Hi John
I have only recently discovered your excellent
website and am busy working my way through the
information. My husband is planning to build a
float, so the float section has been of particular
interest and a real eye opener. In our search for
float plans we came across plans for a float where
the horse travels facing backwards and then
discovered that this type of float is actually being
manufactured in NZ (only a few hours drive from us)
see
www.equibalance.co.nz
,
previously known as Kiwi Safety Trailers. We are
wondering what your opinion is about this system as
it sounds very sensible, obviously as long as all
the float hazards you have mentioned are eliminated.
Thanks for providing all the excellent advice on
your website. I will be purchasing some of your e
books and probably DVDs as I have three horses
including a six month old foal. I know that they and
I will benefit from your experience.
Regards
Adrienne NZ
I don't know Adrienne. I have to admit never seeing
one or testing Horses in such. There have been
studies and test that say that horses prefer that
way of travel but I only comment on what I have
examined. I'll have a look through the site
tomorrow. Regards
12th March, 2008
Stinking Hot again and up and
at em at 6am, still dark. First mount up on my
latest little fulla, Oscar. He looks a lot like his
Daddy.
Meanwhile, Mrs. HP escorted
Mrs Anne Easton around the District on her lovely
and newly broken in Standardbred Gelding (by her)
and he didn't bat an eyelid they tell me. Even
cantered and didn't pace once. The smile says it
all. "Love is in the air" :)
Meanwhile, I escorted the
owner of the Clydie Filly around the District and
she rode the last half. Once again, went off without
a hitch, walk, trot and canter.
She works for Kentucky Equine Research.
So all in all, a pretty
successful morning until we had to float load a
Horse that ran into the Float too fast and crushed
Mrs. HP against the chest Bar, hurting her plenty.
We don't think anything is broken but she sure is a
sore Girl. Trouble with her is that she doesn't
bruise or swell up much.
HORSES AND HEAT
Hi John
Just checking out your site as I haven’t been there
for a while. You have touched on one of my pet
subjects...bloody people putting themselves/career
in front of the welfare of the horse... Kirkaldy
Park Horse Trials have just stated on Aushorse that
they ARE running their event this weekend despite
the temperature going to be 36 degrees plus!! They
state that they will start the cross country earlier
700 and finish around 130pm ( I’ve never seen horse
trials finish on time)and they will think about.....
In fact here is what they have said:
“To all competitors KPHT is intending to run on the
weekend 15/16 March.
The cross country and showjumping will probably be
starting at 7am not 9am and we should be finished by
1.30pm. There will be bags of ice available for
aggressive cooling of the horses (and riders if
necessary). A demonstration of aggressive cooling
will be done on saturday probably during the lunch
break and we advise everyone to attend. We will also
look at extending the optimum time on the cross
country courses, this will be decided on the
Saturday. The going is reasonable, the ground does
give beneath the horses feet. “
God I wish there was a governing body to make them
to stop being A#@%holes. Anyone who runs this
weekend should have to run the cross country course
on foot before making their horses do it...that
would sort them out then they need to travel home in
the back of the float with the horses sweltering!!
I bet they wont refund the entry fees ($140 + ) to
those people who choose to put their horses welfare
first!!
This is madness and in makes me so angry!!!
I don’t feel any better now I’ve vented L
Pam
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Hi John,
Just had a call from a concerned rider, telling me
that Kirkcaldy Park Horse trials are GOING AHEAD on
the weekend, despite the weather forcast of extreme
heat, not to mention the great risk of bush fires.
(Rider has pulled out of event). Where are the RSPCA
standing on this event, I wonder. Have they thought
of the problems associated with evacuating horses,
riders and spectators in the event of a crisis? Are
they still having it because some of our high
profile riders need exposure before the big bang in
China? Me thinks the organisers have been standing
in the sun too long...
Keep cool.
Well to both Ladies, what can
I say? You have said it well. So we start at 7am
Yippee for the 7am people. What about the 11am
people? or the Horses? I know what it is like as I
am out there 5 days a week. At 9am it is too Hot for
casual riding, let alone galloping like a fool
around a Cross Country Course. In 39 degrees which
is the forecast, and in the shade, it will be 43
minimum and don't anyone give me the "It is cooler
in the Hills" Bull Shizzer it is. When it gets past
35, that is a fallacy. The bottom line is once
again, the Peak Bodies do not have Planning and they
do not have Rules in place. This is proof once
again. A Circus. "Who's looking after the Horses?"
You know the one's....the one's we love soooooo
much??????
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Double blow for British Olympic hopes
Britain's hopes for Olympic glory have suffered a
double blow with the death of a dressage horse and
the withdrawal of one of the country's top
showjumpers.
German-based British dressage rider Fiona Bigwood
has lost her top ride, Mr G de Lully.
Mr G de Lully had been turned out in a 20x20m sand
arena with "every boot and bandage on", but somehow
fractured his leg in seven places between the hoof
and the fetlock.
"We tragically had to have 'G' put down despite all
efforts to save his leg," said Bigwood. "What he had
done we will never know. There was nothing we could
do."
The 15-year-old 16.2hh Swedish-bred gelding by
Gaugin de Lully is currently fifth in the British
Dressage Grand Prix Rankings and had represented
Britain at the 2005 and 2007 European Championships.
Bigwood was preparing him for team qualification for
the 2008 Olympic Games in Hong Kong.
"He was so special to me and we were so in tune with
each other. His loss is like losing a member of my
family," said Bigwood.
• Nick Skelton's top showjumper Arko will not be
available for Olympic selection.
He has been withdrawn from selection by his owners,
the Hales family, the British team management and
Skelton.
Derek Ricketts, Show Jumping Performance Manager
said: "Taking into account both Arko's stud duties
and veterinary advice, we agreed that it wouldn't be
fair to target him for the Olympic Games. Obviously
this was not an easy decision, but one we felt would
be in Arko's best interests."
He said that Skelton and Arko would still be
available for Super League selection this year.
Will Connell, British Equestrian Federation
Performance Director, said Arko had been a
consistent servant to Great Britain over the years
and hopefully for many more to come.
"This decision has been made with the best interests
of the horse in mind to ensure his long term future
as both a working stallion and international
competition horse."
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BAD NEWS FOR HEAVY RIDERS ON NARROW HORSES
Researchers in the US have bad news for overweight
horse riders. A study has found that horses who have
to carry between 25 and 30 per cent of their
bodyweight have more physical problems related to
exercise than those who carry 20 percent or less.
Horses carrying 30% body weight showed a significant
increase in muscle soreness and muscle tightness
scores. The changes were less marked when they
carried 25% body weight.
Dr Debra Powell and colleagues at the Ohio State
University Agricultural Technical Institute,
Wooster, conducted a study in which horses, carrying
up to 30% of body weight, were monitored performing
a standardised ridden exercise test in an indoor
school arena. After five minutes active walk to warm
up, the horses were ridden at a trot (3m/s) for
4.8km, followed by 1.6km at a canter (5m/s). This
exercise schedule was chosen to simulate a 45-minute
work period of work typical of an intermediate-level
riding school horse.
The researchers measured heart rate, plasma lactate
concentration and creatine kinase. Lactate is
produced in the muscles during exercise. At low
levels of work the body can metabolise it and so
levels in the plasma remain low. As the work level
increases the rate of lactate production exceeds the
body's ability to remove it and so concentrations
rise. Creatine kinase (CK), an enzyme present in the
muscles, is released into the blood as a result of
some types of muscle damage.
An animal massage therapist assessed muscle soreness
and muscle tightness before and after exercise.
The findings seemed to support the view that horses
can carry up to 20% of their body weight without
difficulty. There was little difference between all
the measures when horses carried either 15% or 20%
of body weight. However, when the weight carried
increased further, the scientists started to detect
differences.
When horses carried 25% or 30% of their body weight
their heart rate remained elevated for longer after
exercise. The serum CK level was higher immediately
after exercise, and 24 and 48 hours later, in horses
carrying 30% body weight compared with those
carrying 25% or less. There was no change in CK when
horses carried 15 and 20%. Plasma lactate levels
were higher immediately after exercise and 10
minutes after end of exercise, in horses that
carried 30% of their body weight.
The study also investigated whether the horse's
conformation affected its weight-carrying capacity.
The scientists looked at the horse's height,
circumference of the cannon midway between knee and
fetlock, and width of the back (loin) behind the
saddle - between the last rib and pelvis.
They found that horses with wider loins showed less
muscle soreness and tightness when carrying 25% and
30% body weight.
This was a small study involving only 8 horses. The
scientists suggest that further investigations into
the value of loin width as an indication of weight
carrying ability would be worthwhile.
We all knew that 35 years ago
but good that they now realize.
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SADDLE PRESSURE STUDIES SHOWS PROBLEMS WITH
MOUNTING
New research on the forces that the saddle exerts on
a horse's back has revealed that the way a rider
mounts can have a great effect.
The study, by Dr Hilary Clayton and colleagues at
the Mary Anne McPhail Equine Performance Center, at
Michigan State University's College of Veterinary
Medicine, at East Lansing, looked at how the
pressure under the saddle differed depending on
whether the horse was mounted from the ground or
from a raised mounting block.
Back problems are often blamed for poor performance
and behavioural problems in horses. An ill-fitting
or damaged saddle can cause pain.
Ten experienced riders, of different weights and
heights, took part in the study. Each mounted the
horse from the ground and from a mounting platform.
The horse, a 14-year-old riding horse gelding, was
clinically sound, had no back problems, and was
ridden in a correctly fitting dressage saddle.
A pad placed under the saddle contained an array of
pressure sensors. Each individual measurement was
analysed to produce an overall picture of the
pressure gradients.
The study showed that the horse's withers play an
important part in stabilising the saddle as the
rider mounts. There was a marked downward force in
the left stirrup as the riders right leg swung
upwards. The total force was significantly higher
when the horse was mounted from the ground, than
when a platform was used. If the area under the
saddle was divided into quadrants (inner and outer,
front and back) on each side, the peak pressure
occurred at the right fore inner (by the withers)
and left fore outer quadrants.
Unsurprisingly, the study also confirmed that
heavier riders exerted greater pressures on the
horse's back. From their results, the scientists
calculated that a rider weighing 50kg mounting from
the ground would exert a maximum total force of
547N. A 100kg rider would exert a maximum total
force of 914N.
However, it is not so much the maximum total force
that caused problems. The forces recorded during
mounting were actually slightly lower than those
recorded when the horse was ridden at a walk, and
much lower than during cantering.
Similarly the inertial effect caused by the right
leg swinging up was less than that measured during
the trot and canter. These pressures were
distributed evenly and were only likely to present a
problem if the saddle did not fit properly.
More important is the fact that the forces
experienced during mounting are asymmetrical -
concentrating the pressures on localised areas at
the right side of the withers.
The scientists suggest that heavier riders should be
encouraged to use a mounting block rather than mount
from the ground, regardless of how agile or tall
they are. This should help limit the possible
harmful effects of mounting from the ground.
Wide, flat withers make it more likely that the
saddle will slip towards the side of mounting, warns
Dr Clayton. This is especially so when the saddle
tree is narrow and sits too high above the withers.
We have known that forever too
and only two weeks ago it was highlighted with a
Horse on this site. Perhaps they could look into
Colic
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LETTERS OF THE DAY
Hi John
You seem to be baking down there!
Two questions for today. Firstly, had a bit of a
stack on the weekend. My fault as I rode too long
and my muscles got exhausted, so I stacked when
horse shied from a walk. Very embarassing and to
make it worse, my foot appears to have gotten stuck
in the stirrup and I ended up with a twisted ankle.
I am rather talented really :) Anyway, it is the
first time ever that I have not been able to get
back on a horse after a stack and I hobbled back to
the saddling area with my boy and put him away. He
was very apologetic the whole way back and
apparently was rather subdued for the whole day.
Seemed to cheer up when I brought his rug out in the
afternoon. Since then, he has been a cheeky bugger
at feed time - as in not following the rules. I've
corrected as needed, but he did it two days in a row
with yesterday's correction seeing him run out and
fling his head around like a twit. So not only was
he made to stand outside yesterday, he also had to
do a little ground work before he was allowed in to
eat. Today however, he was the picture of manners.
I'm actually thinking that the naughties were
because I was physically weaker - hobbling pretty
badly, hunched over and what not, not the normal
assertive body language I have. Today, I am pretty
much back to normal and there was no hint of
disobedience. Is it likely that is why he was
pushing the rules?
Quite possibly but maybe for
different, but associated reasons. Your overall
vibes being "Poor Me" could transfer 'Cow Down Bow
Down" to the Horse and in your Body Language. They
are smart they are :)
Second question, he seems to be slipping over at
canter. Not fun. Not being able to ride this week,
he is being lunged so we can work on balance
exercises at canter. In today's warm up, he went
over once again. I am thinking it is because he is
leaning in too much and the inside hind just slips
through to the outside of the circle, so straight
under the body and out the other side, and down he
goes. He did actually improve with our balance
exercise and didn't slip in that. Have you seen that
happen before? Could it be veterinary? He is unshod,
would shoes help? I can't see why they would, but
doesn't hurt to ask. Ridden, he has slipped in the
arena, but is it a pretty slippery surface, so we
don't ride in there anymore (I've seen other horses
go down in there as well). Doesn't happen if I keep
him together and upright. Isn't a nice way to come
off. I'll get the chiro to come and see him again on
the weekend, she may also have some ideas for me.
thanks
K
I am not quite sure where this
is happening? Lunging?? Round Pen? Bad Surface? I'll
skip that one until you expand a little.
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Hi Hp,
I have a 14hh overweight pony gelding, currently on
8 acres of long grass, (no hand feeding required)
with 1 other pony. He's being moved to 3.5/4 acres
with 3 other horses and shortish grass.
The reduced grazing will be good for him long term,
however I know that sudden changes are bad, so how
do you recommend going about this? do i start
hardfeeding or just feed hay? how gradually would
you do it? what, personally, would you have him on
long term?
He's got an easy life and is only ridden about 2
times a week, cheers :)
I can't see a problem with the
transfer because both locations are grass. You want
him to trim down anyway and if you watch and observe
that process properly, you can then decide what
supplementary feeding he may require but don't let
him 'get under your guard' as they can suddenly go
to looking ok to looking very not ok if you know
what I mean. There is a fine line there. Regards
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Hi John,
Biggest LOL in ages when I read your story of horses
putting fly
veils in a hole in the paddock!! Absolutely
brilliant work!
Maybe this explains the disappearance of 3 dog coats
off my Tenterfield Terrier somewhere on the property
last winter, never to
be seen again!! He obviously hated tartan!!. He can
shiver this
winter!!!
Jen
Hahaha Jen. I kid you not,
that was a true story. I notice one of my Breakers
has that multi colored fly veil hanging in the
stable. Guess what, she I forgot to put it on 12
days in a row :)
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The psychological turn around of these horses is
obviously essential and the most challenging aspect
so I will buy the Track to Dressage. These, along
with the market harborough I've purchased will
surely aid the process.
Two questions:
Re Market harborough - Is it safe to wear during
initial jump training?? (After successfully
habituating on the flat of course)
No, definately not!!!!
Re Rearing - Can't seem to download the Rearing
podcast?? This is an issue I am confused about and
can't seem to get a clear answer wherever I look..
How do I delete this behaviour as opposed to buck
jumping? You say that the one rein stop is not to be
used. Could you please advise what I can do if I
encounter it so as not to reinforce the behaviour?
Is it a matter of a downward transition followed
immediately by an upward one??
The One Rein stop, if used as a Horse goes to rear,
can cause them to fall over backwards and sideways
on a twist motion that is highly likely to end with
the Horse on the Rider. Downward transitions are
also counter productive. Forward is everything.
The other thing is to get the Horse thinking down
and that is all about vertical submission and
lightness. Regards
11th
March, 2008
Well, we broke the record of the longest spell over
35 degrees C and it is going to go at least 5 more
days, increasing to 39 in the shade again. No rain
for 43 days either. Pray! Day off today so didn't do
much. Back on the job in the morning. Jump on that
little Indiana Fulla and take the proud owner of the
Clydie out for a ride with the cars :)
HORSE
ACCESSORIES DESIGN VERSUS HORSE WELFARE
THE TRUE
STORY OF A GENIUS HORSE
You would know by now that I don't suffer fools
gladly where Horses are concerned. I have been
finding instances to write about now for 5 years. I
thought I would run out after 3 months but it is
evident that I will never. Hell, I only have to walk
out my back door to find instances where Horses are
attempting to communicate their discomfort but we
Humans never hear them.
Such is the case of a Saint of a Horse on this
property. He is the consummate darling Boy, his
owner loves him very much and does a great job in
attempting to look after him to the best of her
ability but for Horses, this is sometimes not good
enough. Problem is that the majority of Humans can't
read Horses, definitely don't listen to horses and
go about their association letting such a lot go
right through to the keeper.
Months ago now, his owner purchased him a fly veil.
A very special fly veil. It came with fluffy bits
around the top of the head and specifically, ear
covers. You know, just like in the cartoons :) Now
remember we live in the driest State in the driest
Continent on Earth. Now of course the true culprit
is those dam Saddlery Chains that must have non
Horse people sitting in back rooms dreaming up how
they can maximize the profit by color
co-coordinating everything for the Teenage Girl and
bugger the Horse. The number of stupid bloody
Products that are coming out and being sold by the
Saddleworld and Horseland boggles my mind. There is
little or no care for the welfare of the Horse. As
long as it matches the tight ass joddies of the
perfectly color co-coordinated the Rider who is
going to be spurred on to get into Mother's wallet
big time....but I digress....
This great Horse, for Months now, has been removing
his fly veil with the ears but because it has a
hooking connection to velcro on the top of the neck
rug part of the see through outfit. Every day he
would remove his fly veil and it would be hanging
down at the side of his head. This made him a happy
Boy but wait there's more. The neck rug wasn't on
recently so he removed the fly veil, picked it up
and went and put it in the water trough. Who noticed
that? Well Mrs. HP did of course and she had long
before known that the Horse was telling us that he
hated the bloody thing...but wait there's more.....
The Horses here get put out in a run around paddock
for many hours in a day and he set about training
his Mates to remove his veil and he would remove
their one's. 4 of them went missing for a while
until one day one of the owners found them all
carefully put in a hole in the paddock.
Do horses talk? You be the Judge. Can people who
design Horse Products think about the wants and
needs of Horses? Not a chance and what about the
owner? Well she is in the vast majority
unfortunately. It is not taught, it has never been
mentioned in any learning course on the Planet and
so why would she. Not her fault. That is why this
website will strive to educate and make people think
until the day I can't lift a finger!!!
This is similar but with ears on.
I saw this one in Saddleworld this week. To match
all. Go stick your head in that little darling with
the diagonal stripes to confuse the hell out of you
and possibly have you run thorugh 10 fences. The
black is the most prefered colour and the best view.
Horses here vote the
BLACK ONLY
- no other colour
of the rainbow!!!!!!!!!!!!
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STATE
DRESSAGE CHAMPS
Hi there,
Again… I am annoyed to read yet another ‘media’
stuff up concerning the SA State Dressage
championships!!!
After reading a prominent horse magazine falsely
stated that the champs had been cancelled, I now see
your site claiming that the champs were pushed back
because of EI.
Not so!!
For the first time, the State Champs have been taken
on by the willing, enthusiastic and very dynamic Mid
South East Dressage Club in Naracoorte. The date for
the Champs was set from long before EI, and even
though EI proved many challenges, the organisers
pushed forth and set the program, and entries are
flowing in for what will be a very exciting event.
So – just to set the record straight, as I feel it
is unfair to take any of the buzz away from this
fabulous club who, with much smaller membership than
the clubs who normally host the event, will be sure
to do a stellar job.
I thank you for perhaps mentioning a correction.
Cheers,
Carly Boon
MSEDC.
Hi Carly,
The piece was nothing to do with your Club, in fact
I didn't even know that is where they are to be
held. My point was about holding the event in March
year after year and not shifting it backwards.
I wil correct this tonight and have the greatest
admiration for your Club as does my wife, not that
this is anything to do with her. It is in fact a
breath of fresh air which is why we support it.
I was born in Naracoorte so you can see where my
heart would lie.
See you there. :)
hi john,
thanks for your reply. I do realise the point behind
your piece, and agree completely. However, the event
has, in fact, been pushed back, to anzac weekend.
Although, in support of your point, this had little
to do with hot weather, and more to do with
---------------------- event. Again, thanks for the
reply, lets hope this weather eases, and those of us
who can't ride at 6am might be able to get in the
saddle! Cheers, carly
Thanks Carly, no offence meant. My apologies if
anyone down there felt put out. Regards
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LETTERS
OF THE DAY
Hi John,
Our horses are all fed via troughs from or natural
spring and never
had any problems with this. Until today....have you
heard of this
before??.
I have been putting one of our horses into a paddock
with grass to graze during the day (which is the
only one without a trough) so I have been filling
his bucket with lovely tank water.
I did this daily for about 2 weeks, then back to
usual paddock at night. Then yesterday morning I put
him back into another paddock fed by spring trough
and left him there.
Today was 37 deg and by the end of the day, this
lovely quiet horse
was running the fences. This horse never does this.
So I put him
back into a more familiar paddock. Still running the
fences.
Decided to try a bucket of "Tank water" and
well.................found out I had a very
dehydrated horse who I have worked out had not had a
drink for 2 days.
Why would a desperately thirsty horse not drink the
water that he and all the other horses drink
normally just because he tasted the good
stuff?? Wouldn't he take the spring water before
death???
Have you seen this before?
Regards, Jen
I don't think I have told this story before but I
will. Years ago, I was showing my QH Stallion who
was not a purebred. Well, you have never seen so
many noses out of joint as he was basically
unbeatable with 34 wins and 29 Championships our of
39 shows. One night he was poisoned. His water tub.
The pigeons fell from the sky on their way back to
their roosts and the Kangaroos were dead not far
from the trough. My Horse was on a drip for 7 days
but came good. From that day on, he would never
drink out of that trough and I ended up having to
put two buckets of water at a time in the paddock
but he would only drink from the one the most
distance from the trough. Horses have a far higher
sense of smell than us and you just never know what
your Horse could smell on the bucket, the vicinity
of the bucket or whatever else. You would only need
a Fox to have urinated where you put the bucket.
They are suspicious buggers and so they should be :)
I would be now experimenting with the Horse to get
to the bottom of it. Let your imagination run riot.
Good story.
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Hi John,
just a quick question on behalf of someone that
agists with me. Her horse, an 8yo Tb she recently
bought off a riding school, licks the creo posts
when tied up. Noone has ever noticed him do it when
out in the paddock, and he doesn't windsuck or crib,
but when he is tied to the creo rail he licks it as
though it were a salt lick.... Any thoughts as to
why? Or how to stop this? Otherwise he could be tied
up elsewhere, but just curious as to why he would
continually do this....
Thanks,
Lisa
On a similar theme Lisa? Well it is real bad for him
Lisa but those Posts may also be Sun Bleached with
little Creo odor or taste left???? Surely he
wouldn't do that to a fresh one? Anyhow, lacking in
minerals of some description I would think. A blood
test wouldn't go astray on him. Similar to the Race
Horses have to check all of the Blood Cells, Haemo
and so on. Let me know
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Hi
I read your article in the latest horse power
magazine and I found a lot of the information
very useful. Some of the things that you
suggested I had already tried and they proved to
work but at the time of doing them (as they were
only what I considered to be my uneducated
guesses before your article) I wondered if I was
compounding the problem.What I am contacting you
about is that I own a Shetland cross Palouse
Pony who will only allow my 5yr old to catch
him. I have been able to catch him on some
occasions but that is usually with a carrot in
hand. ( I don’t mind doing that) We have owned
him now for about 9 months and I find him to be
cautious of any adult that comes near him. He is
almost timid to the point of afraid. I know the
home that he came from and they owned him for 5
years and he was the same way with them. They
were a kind and loving family to him and never
mistreated him. Previously we are not sure of
his ownership as he was purchased through the
markets. So I would say by his actions that he
has possibly been abused as a youngster. He is
only about 8 years old (according to my
dentist)Is there anything that you can recommend
that will help this little guy trust us? He is
not nasty and my 5yr old loves him to death and
I must admit that he is getting better with me
but is still wary of my husband, older children
and extremely frightened of anybody else that
comes near him. Unless he is being held you
can’t get near him. My 5yr old can catch him and
bring him to either me or my husband but you can
see that he is not entirely comfortableI hope
that you have some suggestions for me to try
Thank you
Tracy
Once again
Tracy, we must have empathy, which I know you
have and make allowances for the little one.
Some of these do it even because they are so
small and have to be extra careful plus every
other Animal or Human are so much bigger than
them. Their flight from fear is heightened. They
may have even been belted up by other Horses or
Dogs even. You just have to win his trust over
time and let him heal. Sit on the ground and
feed him his favourite special feed from a
bucket or preferably your hand if he will. Build
upon it. His stomach is probably the route to
his trust :) Come down to his level and height.
Let him look down upon you. Even up the playing
field. See how you go. Regards
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10th March, 2008
Well, we broke the 70 year old record today for heat
and the rest of the week is the same.
Hi John,
Saw on the news tonight that it was 40 degrees down
your way again. Don't know what is going on.
Queensland hardly had a summer. We got our one and
only hot day (40.2 degrees) about 2 weeks ago, and
it hasn't gotten over 28 degrees since. Down to 14
at night. I've only had the aircon on about 4 nights
this summer.
Sounds strange, but maybe you southerners should
come up here for a holiday and enjoy some cool
weather.
Regards,
Chris
Very Droll Chris. Do they sell stilts up to 6 metres
hahahaha? No, it is a worry indeed. Have a read of
this.
HORSE SPORTS AND HEAT
I continue to be surprised at the attitude of those
in charge of our Horse Sports Organizations and how
their heads appear to be buried in the sand when it
comes to the Welfare of our good friends, 'the
horse'.
Today is a Holiday in our State, for the Adelaide
Cup to be run (horse race) of about 2800 metres I
think from memory. It is 40 degrees C here today and
yet the race meeting is being run. Cunningly and
ruthlessly, the committee of the South Australian
Jockey Club who show they only care about the
almighty Dollar and not Horses, put the race back 40
minutes hahahaha. Wow, 4.30pm when it is still 40
degrees. Nice PR move and how smooth? The fact is
that this has to be cruelty to Animals and once
again, why is that Horse Industry Bodies in this
Country have to be dragged kicking and screaming
into the next millennium and the new world of
technologies??? If they had half a brain they would
already have installed lights, Hell they have known
about Global Warming for years now and this meeting
and all meetings should be 'TWILIGHT'!!!!
Then we have the Dressage Committees. For years now,
concerned Riders' have been asking for the State
Dressage Championships to be put back a month or two
but the Powers of the Day have continually argued
against this. It so happens that those Championships
would have been this weekend if it were not for EI.
Repeat after me Ladies, "We were wrong again" Read
my lips, the Summer in South Australia is too hot
for Horse Sports and they should be all cancelled or
TWILIGHT MEETINGS???? Are lights being installed
anywhere by the EFA? Why now, where is your
planning? Get with it!!! Where is Dressage Central?
Where are the facilities???? What you been doing for
20 years????? I don't know.....
Why is that the Horse Industry
is always behind the times?
So I have mentioned several
times how our Government lie with our Temperatures.
They take it in the shade of a Tree and that is not
the real World. The true Temperature out in the Sun
is over 50 degrees according to some people who have
tested with a Thermometer and every car thermometer
I have seen have the Temperatures at 4-5 degrees
consistently higher than the Government Broadcasts
on the TV.
I was told today of another
Agistment Property that has run our of water. The
clients have to bring their own water from home.
What do you think of that? Does that worry the
Bosses of the Industry and could that make them
start to think about protecting the Industry from
Global warming>?????
but to finish the rant, to the
S.A.J.C. who have made the News Headlines so they
have successfully sucked in the Media and most of
the suckers who watch TV, you Cons!
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and so to the Fish Cans on
Wheels made of Steel in our conditions.
This float came into our place
the other day, an Olympic and it was nice to think
that I have influenced some people. Not the Company
of course because most have to be dragged kicking
and screaming by the Clients but she did well. She
has 17 hand Warmblood Horses.
So we may as well go over it:
Good idea in principal but can
become a weapon
Complete open spaces can cause rearing to escape.
Ready
to hook the Halter of a Horse
Not a removable chest bar
One of the most dangerous gut cutting designs
available.
Great rubberGreat
light protector
One of the most old fashioned and dangerous back
ramp latches known.
Highly dangerous handle
Great height. 2300mm.
LETTERS OF THE DAY
Hi i
recently was having alot of trouble with my daughter
trying to get her to see that by not beating her
horse at it’s stubborn i do not want to do this game
she was wreaking a great little pony so i showed her
your podcast ( i think it is the one about when and
when not to discipline the young horse) she has
since opened her eyes and is ready to start again
and stick with it.
Her pony was a great little pony for me and also for
her for the first little while however as all horses
do at some time decided to try her out and pulled a
fake i’ll scare you attitude which of course worked
on my daughter an scared her we have now taken many
steps backwards but she is now ready to move forward
after hearing your inspirational podcast.
I would like to take this time to thank you greatly
as your words have helped my daughter out beyond
belief.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Regards
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Hi John &
Linda,
Firstly would like to say thankyou for your website.
Over the past three years I have gained so much
valuable information that has helped me with my
horse Maske a 4yr old 15hh Anglo Arab Mare.
Just a bit of history:
Purchased her at 18months old, broke her in to
saddle at 2yrs put her out for a spell and brought
her back as a 3 yr old. She is a well mannered girl
on the ground but has been extremly flighty. (the
halter type arab!) It had been 10 yrs since I'd been
around horses prior to buying her, so I was a bit
nervous with her spookyness so unfortunatly we
constantly kept feeding off eachother. YOUR ARTICLES
HAVE HELPED ME OVERCOME THIS!!!
I had been riding her out on trail rides for 4
months and then fell pregnant. I had to give riding
away the past 10 months but have had a friend -
knowlegeable horseman riding her. This has been a
god send as he rides her through her spookyness and
has helped teach her manners with riding with other
horses (she used to kick out etc..). I am now back
in the saddle and have adopted many of your
principles riding her through her spooks. It is
wonderful, we are now having fun, I am no longer
nervous of her spooking and am so much better
prepared for the unexpected than I have ever been.
(The past 10 months have been great for
re-programming my nervous brain)
My problem is; After about 20 - 30 mins of riding
she will start excessivly chewing the bit, tilt her
nose to the side and hold her neck to the left, she
is leading with her shoulder. She also tries to
touch the area between her chest and upper leg. This
is done at all paces - extremly dangerous as she is
likely to trip and go over. She doesn't do this
constantly for the entire ride but will do it in
sections for about 15 mins at a time.
I've tried to no avail
- straightning her up with the reins (riding on a
loose rein & also tried more contact etc..)
- Tried to distract her by doing sidepasses etc...
- Have had her teeth filed
- Changed bits from an FM to a French Snaffle
- Lowered the bit
- Raised the bit
- Put a nose band on
- checked her tongue wasn't over the bit
- checked saddle and girth for pinching
- Used 4 different saddles just in case
My fellow horse friends don't know, one has
suggested it might be a behavoural problem - nervous
behavour typical of a young horse???
She also bucks or pigroots while cantering- maybe
the two are correlated???
I am going to get a physio to check her over incase
she is in pain - although she doesn't appear to be.
Do you have any suggestions - it is extremly
frustrating and I am hesitating at riding her faster
than a trot in fear she will roll
Kind regards,
Nicole Cameron
I would suggest two things. Ride only say 20 minutes
and see what happens and and if the horse doesn't do
it. That will aid in your investigation. Rather than
a physio, I would be off to the Vet and get a
complete check over. You should also video the horse
doing this, the head tilting and the kicking
up at canter. That is a sure sign of problems and
this is a great indicator for the Vet. Have the Vet
view it (something that they should do more of)
Regards
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Hi there!!
I'm a 23yr old female from the UK!! I work in horse
racing, and have done for 7yrs.
I am completely understand your points of view on so
many things!! I never went to Pony Club myself. And
I much prefer rope halters. I do not claim to be the
most competent rider in the world, and it's not
always easy to spend time getting a race horse going
nicely when you may have a different one everyday,
but I try my hardest. I ride a 3yr old filly
currently who always walks, trots and canters on the
lightest of contacts. She will stand still whenever
asked, ridden or held. The first time she was hosed
down she didn't move a muscle. When leading her in
the yard, or at the races she walks quietly and
calmly by my side with a loop in the rein. It is
yard practice to use chiffney bits though.
This year we had a chap called Gary Witherford, who
follows your techniques, start our yearlings for us,
and they are much better for it. However, the staff
that ride them insist on pulling on their mouths and
eventually ruining them. It's truly heartbreaking!!
I do have a couple of questions. Although I never
did the Pony Club thing, I've always been taught to
tie horses to binder twine or string. How would you
suggest doing it with the rope halter?
Also, if I had a horse that won't lead forwards, you
would use a roping horse to get it going, but what
could I do without a roping horse at my disposal??
Hope you can help. Love the work you do, more people
should take note!!
Horses that tie up properly (given the facilities of
course) are the best horses and this has a
tremendous advantageous affect for many reasons, too
numerous to list here. There is nothing much you can
do about track Riders, just shut your eyes and cry
which is why I sacked the Racing Industry years ago.
I too couldn't stand seeing it. You can lighten
these horses up by adopting the policy in general
leading to NEVER allow them to hang on the end of
the rope and be dragged along or nearly dragged
along. You should take up the contact to 100kg and
march forward. Instantly they will hang harder on
you, as they all do but you simply wait until they
give a try and give a loop back into the rope. You
will have to be consistent and from that day on,
never allow them to sit at the end of a rope with
even 500 grams of pressure on it (which is what they
do and my latest Breaker is doing) Twine Horses and
Webbing Halter Horses ALL DO THAT and this is an
immediate sign to me that they may be suspect to tie
up. The other thing that will lighten them up is to
tie them up and let them have some hang backs. ONLY
WITH PROPER FACILITIES AND A NECK STRAP AND BOOTED
UP AND WITH KNOWLEDGE. That lightens them up quick
as your weakness is negated and they LOSE ;)
Regards
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Hi John
I see down your way it was another hot, stinking
weekend! Up here on the Sunshine Coast (QLD) rain,
rain and more rain.
Could you please recommend anyone up here that is
following your ideas for breaking in a young horse,
I have your DVD's but not nearly experienced enough
to risk ruining my young arab by doing it wrong from
the start.
I have contacted a few different styles of breakers
from stockman to natural horseman, but none have yet
left me feeling happy with the end result I see in
the horse that there handing back to owners.
Of course the other option is for you and Mrs HP
head up here for a holiday for a few weeks .
Worst senerio will be sending her down to you, a
long way travelling
for her, what is the costing for you to start her
please.
Many thanks
Robyn
I have two or three of these ones today Robyn and I
have to say this.:
All those who have my Mouthing DVD should just go
and do it. You cannot stuff up and you will still
end with a Mouth as good as any Breaker. As you
start off, even with a skittish horse, the system
and it's use will go a long way towards removing
such 'flight response' from the Horse and the more
mistakes you make in that part the better because
all the while the Horse is getting quieter and
quieter and less afraid of things. By the time you
are good at it, you have desensitized the Horse real
well. The only problem you would have is equipment
which is why I send this email out now with the DVD.
HORSEPROBLEMS MOUTHING SYSTEM
The problem that clients may experience, depending
upon their equipment, is that the run of the mill
Breaking in Rollers will not cope. Go to my saddlery
page for the reasons:
The Ropes should be of the shiny and slippery
yachting braid of that you buy in the Marine
Supplier Shop for the Boaties. Depends on the size
of your round pen but mine is 5.5 metres of 12mm and
joined on with knot to 3.5 metres of 8mm with a clip
on the end of it. That 8mm is the part
that----------------------------. The thinner of the
two makes it very easy --------------and also the
yachting braid rope ensures ease of release if you
have to if a horse panics and the rope won't jam up.
The Roller comes with latigo on each side and does
up with the Western cynch rigging that is the pulley
system.
I have now had Girths made for this equipment as
people are having trouble finding them small enough
at the Shops.
All of this equipment is made to last and of the
highest quality. The Roller should be around $350
but I attempt to assist my clients in this area. It
will last forever.
My Roller is made to fit horses from 19 hands high
to 12 hands and under but if you are struggling for
adjustment of girth on those ones, remove the girth
and and attach one ring off the end of an old Bit,
via the latigo on the offside, just as if tying off
the girth. Then run the latigo through the ring from
the near side and using the same adjustment, girth
up the little one. Using the latigo as the girth and
the ring as the pulley point.
I do recommend that more people have a go at it. The
DVD is for 'Dummies" :)
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Hi there
John and Linda,
Did ya miss me. I just checked the forecast it will
be over 34 for the next 2 weeks mainly 38 39 deg.
ohhhhhhhh not fair. I can't ride in this weather it
is still to hot at night and at 6 in the morning. my
saddle has cob webs.
I just want to ride my new horse dam it!
He is doing really well. I am so happy with him. No
problems to report. I guess you were starting to
think I had riden off into the sunset never to
return? Well no I have been bussy at home making
handbags and other crafty things for the easter sea
side markets. I went to the beach tonight and even
the water was warm. not so refreshing. How do you
manage with the heat. what time of the day are you
doing any riding? maybe it is cooler in Adelaide. We
would usually get an evening sea breeze but nothing
at all. the air is just still and thick. I hope that
there will be some sort of change soon. I hope that
My Bear will be ok after a few weeks off of riding.
His temprement tells me it will be fine. I just
can't wait. Well check ya soon guys and happy
Adelaide cup day
Cheers from Cindy
We start at daylite Cindy and finish at 11am. Then
evenings. It hasn't been cooler, believe me. Regards
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Hiya HP,
Just wanted to say thanks again for that sand colic
recipe. My old mare I got given late last year was
looking a bit off & I gave her the recipe in with
her feed last night then this morning all was well
again. A load of sand & fine dirt in with her manure
& a much happier looking old girl.
Cheers
Eloise
Good Eloise. Well done. I just had a phone call from
a girl who picked up a Pony today and it was
manuring pure sand in the Float. How bad is that?
Cheers
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HI there
Was there a mention of you doing another mouthing
DVD or I may be mistaken?? I have the mouthing DVD
just wondered????? Dont know what would be differnt
but you never know until you ask do you LOL Cheers
Amber
Hi Amber, it is 're-mouthing the Horse' and is a
major production of 4 hours twenty minutes on fixing
all of those Horses that have diminished Mouths and
including every Race Horse on the Planet. I used a
14 year old race horse that had raced 10 years. This
one handles the ridden stuff as well and outlines
every thing that ruins mouths both under saddle and
on the ground as well. Regards
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Hi Mr HP,
I have been writing to you about the effects your
training has on trail riding horses and i thought
you would be interested to hear about something that
happened to me a week back. This place i have
mentioned before is my favourite place in the world
and the horses are always wonderful, well looked
after and above all loved.
However, one of the last times i went, they put me
on a horse i hadn't ridden before. He happened to be
the offspring of a very lovely boy so i expected a
lot behaviour/temperament wise. When i got on he
made a noise, now I'm short and he was 16hh so i
have to give a good hop to get up there, but when
the girl came round to do a safety check on the
girth he moaned and she hadn't even touched him. I
have been around horses for 10 years and i have only
heard that noise a few times, he also seemed to look
at me a lot while we were sat waiting.
Now on the trail i always ride with a loose rein,
but any slight movement by me sent his head up in
the air like i had yanked him. He trotted and jig
jogged and when i asked him to stop the head was in
the air again. I had no feeling in the reins, he
wasn't pulling on me but rather trying to get away
from the bit, when he trotted his guts made a weird
sound. I felt totally out of control and because of
my accident he was making me nervous and i hardly
ever get nervous any more. I felt like he could bolt
at any minute. The guide i was riding with told me
he was just being a "prat" and she said quote;
"gather him up, put pressure on his mouth and ride
him through it, I'm riding a young one here today so
I'm putting pressure on her just in case, see"
Well i just wanted to scream at her NO and to tell
her she was a 'Prat' for riding like that. I
couldn't believe it, so i said no and turned him
around and took him back. He obviously needed
remouthing or to have his teeth checked. I then got
one of my regulars and we had a blast, he was
relaxed, forward moving and just a pleasure to ride,
he was so comfortable that i even got a long, slow
western lope out of him.
Sorry again for the long story but i just wanted to
tell you that your training (for riders as well as
horses) gave me the knowledge to listen and
understand a horse who was telling me something
wasn't right and the confidence to stand up for the
way i ride.
Thanks again Alexis.
Haha Alexis. How cute :) "Every picture tells a
story" You have to feel for the poor School Horses
who do a tremendous duty to our Society. The penalty
for being nice ey?
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Dear John, went for a slightly after dawn ride this
morning to beat the heat. You would have been very
proud of me and George, indeed all the horses this
morning behaved very well. We did the kind of ride
that 12 months ago I would not have been able to
complete and probably would have abandoned horse (or
more likely the George would have forcibly ejected
me) part way through. We went up hill and down dale
all at a walk. I used the French snaffle on George
and apart from a little chewing at the very start -
more testing it out I think - we have done an entire
ride without the grinding of teeth and the constant
chewing, okay so I am a little slow at picking these
things up but I get there, eventually. We had a very
good time and went bush more than a couple of times
when we lost the trail, George STEPPED over things
and at one stage was about 3 or 4 horse lengths
behind and was not jig jogging to catch up and the
couple of times he tried it was gentle pressure on
the reins and a reminder to walk and - that was it -
walking! But more importantly, at least to me, was
that when going under low branches and stuff George
was staying at the walk even thought I was leaning
over and to the side to avoid getting squashed, a
definite disadvantage in have a tall horse and when
going in and around in tight places he was listening
to me and not barging through. Only funny thing was
when it was his turn to be in front up this nice
stretch of trail he slowed right down to a crawl
(previously we would have been trying to take it at
a fast trot), and I could not 'encourage' him to
stride out. Oh well! Trevor was very happy to see
him home again but Smoochie is not to sure as George
gets to have 'real' feed after working so hard for
me...very funny to see a horse trying to glare at
another horse and trying to look appealingly at me
at the same time - funny how they manage that isn't
it. I will have having a lunging lesson tomorrow.
Regards Lauren and George - Hero Explorer, Smoochie
Floyd and Trevor
No doubt about you Lauren, looks like that George is
right under control now. "Miles on the Clock' really
help on those Trail Horses, don't they? Poor
Smoochie...you cruel person you :)
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Hi HP,
Can't wait for that tour of yours to start! Will be
great to finally meet you guys and see what magic
you can work with us and our horses. Just noticed
Mrs HP and I have the same birthday!
Anyway, just took my stockhorse out to his first
dressage comp. First outing in over a year and first
time in an indoor arena. Funnily enough he wasn't
bothered about any of it. Settled in well, no silly
business. I could tell he was a little tense in the
indoor and his work wasn't his best but I was happy
with him anyway. Such a lovely breed to work with.
Next comp two weeks away, will see how we improve
then....
Wow, same day? They are always tense for a few
outings and again as I said to Lauren, 'Miles on the
Clock'. Hell, look at what effect it has had on me
:) It's just the wrinkles :) Well done. This Clydie
Cross Filly I am finishing off now (who you will see
on PodCast this week) is a dreamboat as well and she
has stock horse in her. Remember that young King of
last year? The Stock Horse who had more Arab than
Stock? He is Bombproof. I see her cantering around
bareback in a rope Halter. Anyhow, good luck next
time!!!
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Kirra
Thanks Mr
HP.
No witness my end, only my husband whom I told the
agreement to. He saw her come and go. Wrote it down
each time the party came out.
The other party had mother and sister out first
visit for a gander. Before the family members
arrived the sole party had already discussed cash on
working horse. Not a professional at all. Next day
when sole party came out (they came out by themself
with no other family member) and said they wanted
service and LFG to which we both agreed, work and
show stallion for service and LFG.
From then on wards I was under the understanding
that they would get a service fee with LFG once they
accrued the amount equal to service fee.
Does that mean I have no leg to stand on?
Thanks
A USA
Family members are not accepted as credible and are
too biased of course. The Judges are not silly :) So
you don't have much to go on. I am unsure as to
really what happened there with this party and how
it worked but equally, they being the ones that
would have to take the action, they are in a weak
position. Just ignore it and make them take you to
Court if you like where they have to prove all. You
could then negotiate prior to the Case and fix it in
whatever ways you deem acceptable. Regards
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G'day John,
My TB mare has a issue with her hind leg,Im not sure
its a stifle problem or if it is its mild.
Ive been having dressage lessons for a while and can
tell this mare loves to canter,loves to work,
But,a few weeks ago I changed instructors as she was
threatening to tie my hands together!!
anyhow my new instructor is very "Dressagie" she
asked me to do lots of tight circles at trot and
canter, so I gave it a go,horse ws not happy about
it and at one stage her hind leg kinda "slid out",
the next day i took her for a (quiet trailride)
she felt croked,didnt want to walk down a steep hill
and kicked up twice when i tried to slow a hill
canter mabye she was trying to kick the horse behind
me who was being a wally?
How much work could she handle if she does have a
stifle problem? i suppose galloping up hills is a no
no? she does really seem to enjoy it but.I do enjoy
the dressage lessons but am not sure its doing the
horse much good?
thanks again Nat
This is a classic case of the CORRECT work bringing
out the weakness which is probably caused by
incorrect work as it was with the chestnut and the
buckskin in that Pod Cast. Lunging in soft sand with
equipment on to round the horse up and a good ridden
regime of gradual build up of walk and trot with an
insistence on CORRECT should correct the problem but
you may have to ride through the objection. However,
one always has to x-ray first to eliminate bone
chips etc. Otherwise it is all a waste and grossly
unfair on the Horse. You have to be riding 'Inside
Leg to OUtside Rein and with the correct
bend/flexion/suppleness of proper dressage. Regards
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Thanks John. I have a couple of questions re the
market harborough.
I shall post them on the website in case other's
would like to know the answers also...
Of course you hear this every day, and so you
should, however I will tell you also that you are an
inspiration. As is Lynda. You are making a
difference.
Every day that I work with the horses ( OTTB/STB
rehabilitation centre - yes, I'm one of the loony's)
your voice is present.
You are encouraging me to train with strength,
persistance and empathy.
For your forthright, honest and exceptional advice
(that works, for a change)
I am incredibly grateful.
Andrew McLean of the Aust Equine Behaviour Centre
(where I train regularly)has a quote I enjoy:
"When we strip the horse of the misty veil of our
dreams, it emerges, even more remarkable than ever"
A little on the flowery side, I know, but poignant
nonetheless!
Best regards,
Asher Keddie
LOL Asher, Oh if only I had time to sit down and
dream up some of those :) They impress the pants off
the multitudes you know :) Thanks heaps. Most kind
of you. Regards to Andrew.
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9th March, 2008
Here is my next little Lad and his first saddle. Day
3.
I think he thought he was going to be worked again
so......
Smart Boy in this Weather. He is a little bit Girthy
but that is the thin skinned Chestnut for you. They
are more prone than others. I just ignore them. They
get over it :) Of course being more careful with
them during saddling. On average, every Breaker I
ride has to be girthed up around 5 times during the
saddling and after a little bit of the ride.
My girlfriend let the ride out
around the District this morning and today was
'looking for trouble' day. We had a young Lass who
is going to compete in her first One Day Event soon
so I I went looking for the most scary and rough
Country we could find for the whole ride. They both
took it all in their strides and didn't say 'No'
once. Yesterday was day 10 for her and she now goes
around the arena like a pretty good Prelim Dressage
Horse and wouldn't look out of place at a Comp. It
couldn't be picked that she is a Breaker :) Such a
good Girl. She nipped my leg again this morning, you
know the one, just at the very end of the front
teeth in a loving way :) Still hurt though....sooky
me.
The first of our Tanks started arriving today.
Wonderful, 2pm and 40 degrees. There were two
shipments and more to come. Bit of work for me on
the old guttering and site site side of things :(
Bugga the bloody Politicians of the World who think
too much about War and not enough about our Planet.
At
least we are doing something about it. I mentioned
to you that we have this feral neighbor who thinks
he is still living in London and wants 4 acres of
Lawn around his House. Day and night irrigating and
the sprinklers are going hammer and tongs in 40
degree Heat waves with stinking Hot Northerly Winds.
Go figure
There should be a Law against it. Our water table
has dropped 7 Metres in 4 years and we don't have
Mains Water here. Life was not meant to be easy as
Gough said.
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FOOD REWARDS WITH POSITIVE RESPONSES
Young horses learn faster and have more positive
interactions with humans when they receive food as a
reward during training, according to a new study
presented at the 34th Annual Equine Research Day
held in Paris, France, on Feb. 28.
Yearlings that received grain pellets as
compensation for appropriate reactions to vocal
commands were up to 40% faster to acquire new skills
than a control group of yearlings that received no
rewards. The training primarily involved respecting
the words "stop" and "stay" and remaining immobile
while the trainer performed certain grooming tasks
and veterinary procedures on the horse.
"What we're hoping to do is develop techniques which
will allow us to obtain the animal's confidence in
us, without using constraints," said Carol Sankey,
MSc, a PhD candidate in ethology (the study of
animal behavior) at the University of Rennes in
western France, and co-author on the study. At the
previous Research Day event, Sankey's team presented
findings that force can result in a negative
relationship between horses and humans.
COURTESY DR. CAROL SANKEY
A yearling in the study receives a food reward.
Sankey and her team devised a series of objectives
that the yearlings in both the reward and the
no-reward groups were expected to attain in a
consecutive order. After learning to stop and stay
by voice command only, each animal learned to wait
patiently with the leadline draped over its neck
while the trainer brushed it, picked its hooves,
attached a surcingle, applied tendon boots, inserted
a thermometer in its rectum, and finally applied a
"vapor spray" (simulating applying fly spray or coat
polish) over its coat. All eight colts and 15
fillies involved in the study received training
individually for five minutes per day, five days per
week, until the entire set of objectives was
obtained. The amount of time to achieve each task
and the totality of the tasks was recorded for both
groups.
On average, the reward group finished their training
in 3.7 hours whereas the control group needed 5.2
hours to acquire the same tasks. "There wasn't even
any overlap," Sankey explained. "The slowest horse
in the reward group still learned faster than the
fastest horse in the control group."
Additionally, by the end of the training period,
horses in the reward group were more likely to
voluntarily approach the trainer and to remain at a
closer distance to her than the control horses were.
Sankey noted that the horses in the reward group
displayed more behaviors considered positive by the
researchers, including significantly more sniffing,
exploration, and licking of the trainer. Horses in
the control group were significantly more likely to
bite, kick, or fall over during hoof cleaning.
I love it when the intellectuals come with their
million dollar studies to tell us the obvious and
things that every Horsemen on the Planet worth their
salt could have told them with one phone call. Well
at least they know it now :)
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LEGAL LIABILITY ON TRIAL IN BRITAIN
The legal responsibilities of being a racehorse
owner in Britain have come to the fore in the wake
of a multi-million dollar legal claim against the
owners and trainer of a horse that severely injured
an assistant trainer in a pre-race paddock incident
at Wolverhampton Racecourse, England, in April 2005.
The case is due to reach court later this year. The
potential repercussions have prompted the Racehorse
Owners' Association (ROA) to include, as of Jan. 1,
2008, third party liability insurance as a new
benefit in its annual membership fee of £195 ($315
USD) a year.
Chris Kinane, then assistant trainer to Ian
Williams, was kicked in the head by a horse called
Saameq almost three years ago. Saameq was trained by
Ian Semple.
Since the incident, Kinane has undergone more than
17 operations and will require extensive care for
the rest of his life.
Kinane's family has launched the lawsuit against
Semple, majority shareholder David Irvine, and
fellow owner RB Racing Ltd, citing negligence on the
part of the connections.
Irvine, 42, from Kilmarnock, Scotland, the owner of
a small sub-contracting business, was not covered by
insurance at the time of the incident. He faces
financial ruin and has re-mortgaged his home to help
meet legal fees, although he has encountered
difficulty securing a lawyer.
"I have to find a solicitor in England to take it on
as a 'no-win, no-fee' case," he explained. "But as
soon as I mention legal aid I hit a brick wall. I
haven't got any money, so surely I should be able to
get legal aid. The situation is dire, to be honest."
The pressure of the court action has prompted
Scottish trainer Semple, who has insurance of up to
$2-million, to relinquish his British training
license, although he currently has runners
participating under his name at the Dubai
International Racing Carnival.
ROA chief executive Michael Harris said: "The tragic
accident of Chris Kinane has left many racehorse
owners concerned about the risk of a claim, and
potentially a multi-million pound claim, being
brought against them by a third party for which they
have no insurance protection or inadequate
protection.
"The insurance applies to racehorses that are in
full training, horses being prepared to go into
training, and horses which are out of training on a
temporary basis.
"There is a requirement for racehorse trainers to
have public liability insurance, but there is no
mandatory requirement for that cover to extend to
owners who may also be exposed to a claim when their
horse is resting away from the training yard or is
being kept at home," Harris said.
The new insurance benefit in the ROA membership
provides an indemnity up to a maximum of £10 million
($19.8 million) per individual claim.
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LETTERS
OF THE DAY
Hello Mr ‘O’
Leary
Ever since twiddling about on “you tube” and
discovering your “pod casts” I am smitten and
intrigued. I have just ordered 2 DVD’s – “Mouthing
the horse” and “Riding and training the green
horse”. I am currently recovering from a bone graft
taken from my hip put into my mouth, due to a riding
accident I had 15 years ago. When describing me as a
rider back then, people would say, “Fiona doesn’t
fall off, the horse would have to fall over” and
unfortunately that is what happened and I lost my
front teeth not to mention a couple of other broken
bones. Anyway, I have previously e-mailed you and
being from Scotland and new to your web page I never
managed to track down my e-mail or your response. I
am BHS trained, I am beginning to understand your
thoughts on the BHS so I tread carefully, however, I
worked in the USA for a year and learnt a huge
amount, mainly to stop looking upon horses as a job,
which it was at that time but to really try to
connect and understand them more. Back then, if a
horse did not listen to you, you made it, no
argument, it conformed and that was that! I had a
coloured mare for 10 years and was very successful
with her, eventing and all riding club activities.
She died of grass sickness 6 years ago. I bought
another horse, unfortunately I bought someone else’s
problems, he bucked me off after 2 weeks and as I
mentioned earlier, I don’t come off easy! During my
first year with him my daughter, then 3yrs old
became very ill and was in hospital for most of that
year, (she is now great but lives with a long- term-
arthritis). So I never had the chance to bond with
him and keep him ticking over so the bucking,
although extremely infrequent (once every 8 months)
became something I mentally could not take out of my
mind! I definitely “lost my bottle” ( nerve) after
loosing my front teeth. So tried to sell him, but
then realized I could not sleep at night knowing he
could do this to someone else. Years ago I was the
one people would turn to to get on the “problem
horses” so I could not put my problem onto someone
else. In the meantime I bought a 2yr old coloured
mare from Ireland and she is 3 now and about 16.2hh
and I reckon she will make 17hh!! I have purchased a
“Parelli” rope halter and rope, a carrot stick, had
a roller on her, even laid over her back, she will
do some of the 7 games, but with my recent op and
the crap weather I have not been able to get
cracking yet, but I will. Sorry for going on. I am
desperate for a new and improved method, I have
backed lots of horses over the years but not for
some years, due to being a carer for my daughter,
and I need to know is it necessary for me to try to
construct a round pen? What size do you make it? How
do you deal with or prevent outside influences from
distracting the young horse (i.e other horses
screaming for each other)? I am lucky enough to keep
the horses at home I have 6 acres, no designated
sand school or riding area but a good flat field.
Should I be the first to get on her ( I am 40 now
god forbid but more agile than most teenagers I
know), not knowing your methods beyond spending
hours of my recovery reading your stuff and watching
your pod casts and soon to be watching the DVD’s I
have ordered. Will this be enough for me to take the
breaking-in process and “just go for it”, I have
never gotten on an unbroken horse without someone
holding on!!! I worked for “Captain Varley” he was
inspirational, and when we started horses off, he
threw me up and he promised to hold on, he always
did and to be fair the ground work done was so
regimental horses
never tended to buck on their
first 5 or so rides, usually once they new what was
coming, but by then you were both in control. I am
hungry to be good at this, I have lost my nerve and
worry this will adversely effect my ability to do
this, I don’t want to be seen as a “chicken” and put
someone else on board first, I don’t know anyone I
trust to hold on to the horse except myself and I
can’t be in 2 places at once!!! Hence your method of
no one holding on appeals but it also sends shivers
down my spine incase the horse freaks out!!!! Don’t
suppose you fancy a month in Scotland to do some
clinics and get me on this horse at the same time?
Nah I thought not. Let me know your thoughts please,
reassure me I am able to do this, I am not asking
much am I???? J I’ll bet you never realized your
equine knowledge would also have to stretch to
counseling a 40 yr old wifey on the other side of
the world!!! I think your approach is pretty cool,
thanks for listening, I look forward to your
response, don’t hold back!!
Kind regards
Fiona
Bad Luck Fiona. I know the feeling well :) Firstly,
I strongly disagree with the proposal that a handler
can stop a Horse from 'bucking' from the ground. I
have any money you like to put up against the
theory. This is another BHS view that I and most
other Horsemen that I know find dribble. For
instance, have a look at this and tell me how the
good Captain could do better then the roughest,
toughest, meanest and strongest of hombres' on the
Planet. They can't hold them Fiona :)
I rest my case :)
However, I know for a fact
because I do it almost every day of my life
including today in fact, that if mouthed properly
and if the rein handling techniques are up to
scratch, that you can stop them bucking. In your
case however, bearing in mind your history and your
mind fragility, this is what I recommend for you.
Go ahead the mouth your Horse
with my system. Do the 5 star j