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April, 2008
Hard at it on the new Stable block but we have the
roofs and walls on two of them and two more
tomorrow. It is the running around trying to get
supplies that slows things down. I'll take some pics
tomorrow for those who were interested. My poor ol
Mate fell down a Post Hole today. :) I shouldn't
laugh but he is only about 5foot 3 and the hole was
about 4 foot deep. His leg didn't even touch the
bottom when he landed in it :) I shouldn't laugh :)
Poor fellow. Hope he doesn't go on work cover
tomorrow :)
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So the Iraq War is costing our Friends in America 2
billion dollars a day? You know, with the combined
brains trust of the most successful and powerful
Country in the World, why is that they can't work
out how to spend 2 billion a day on alternative fuel
research and then just go and Bankrupt the Middle
East. End of problem and not a shot fired.
and the Olympic Torch is being shown to thousands of
security people and no members of the Public
hahahaha. She is one crazy World we live in and they
are getting worse.
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Remember 'young King"? Well he is still young but he
went to his first Competition, the annual Inter
School Comp today and he won all of his classes, his
young Rider won Champion Rider and he won Reserve
Champion Hack. Not bad for a young Boy? Here he is
then and now.
First Mounting
First walk off
a few months later. Unfortunately, I didn't get the
pics tonight :)
WEAPONS
STOLEN FROM LIGHT HORSE
A SWORD and
rifle used in the Australian Light Horse Brigade at
the Battle of Beersheba in 1917 have been stolen
from an RSL in Sydney's west.
The World War I artifacts were taken during a
break-in at the Auburn RSL, in Sydney's west, during
the early hours of Tuesday morning.
Pawn shops should be on the lookout for them, the
NSW government says.
The Beersheba battle in southern Palestine is famous
for the brigade's dramatic charge while under fire.
Both items were donated by a local man whose father
was in the brigade and had them in his possession at
Beersheba.
MP for Auburn Barbara Perry has asked the
perpetrators to come forward and return the stolen
items before Anzac Day on April 25.
"Pawn shops also need to be on the lookout for the
items and if they see them, immediately notify the
police," Ms Perry said.
She said anyone with further information should
contact the police.
"I'm appealing to anyone who knows more about this
to step forward so these items can be recovered and
we can bring the perpetrators to justice."
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China Expert
to Protest High Gas Prices with Horse Ride in Santa
Monica Sunday, April 13; News Conference on Oil and
Energy Prices, Iraq Follows
First the trucks…and now the horse.
--(BUSINESS WIRE)--As another means of protesting
the escalating gas prices, Peter de Krassel, an
internationally-renowned expert on China (www.custommadebook.com),
business entrepreneur, author, columnist and
lecturer, will ride a horse--attired in contemporary
Chinese clothing--on San Vicente Blvd in Santa
Monica on Sunday, April 13, between 11:30 and 12
noon. At the conclusion of the ride, de Krassel will
hold a news conference to discuss a variety of
subjects relating to China and then conduct a “book
signing” for his new book at The Office, a popular
workplace for writers and other professionals.
de Krassel opines that the high price of oil is not
the fault of China but rather the Arab oil producing
countries and American energy companies and that not
only has the Iraq War not resulted in cheap oil and
money to pay for the cost of the war, but the
reverse has happened. Other subjects he will discuss
include
LETTERS
OF THE DAY
About 9
months ago a horse came up for sale that i knew of
who was at the time in training with my Western
Trainer. The horse was $6000, the woman who owned
the horse is a friend, had only just bought the
horse a couple of months prior to this and had a vet
check done with my trainer present, because of this
i didn't have another vet check completed. At the
time of the check it was noted that the horse was
making some respiratory noise which the vet
diagnosed as a cold and prescribed some antibiotics.
Long story short the horse got Ei back in october
and since then the noise had gotten worse. I had the
horse scoped on tuesday by the same vet practise,
different vet and was told that it is quite possible
that the horse is a Roarer. When he canters you can
hear him breath heavily but he doesn't screech as
yet. The vet then tells me that when he was vet
checked the vet should have reccomended a scope as
that is the protocol with any type of respiratory
noise, what he didn't know was that it was a vet
from his practise that did the original check.
I have the horse insured but only for mortality and
theft so i am not covered for this situation. I am
now left with a horse that is rideable for now but
eventually won't be and i can't sell him. There is
an operation for it but it is too risky and if he
were to not make it thru the operation i am not
covered for that either. He will eventually be a
very expensive paddock ornament.
I am going to do the right thing by the horse and
will care for him and do everything humanly possible
to help him but i just feel so upset that the vet
misdiagnosed him. I am seeking a second opinion and
others have told me that i should get legal advice
however i am unsure that i will get anywhere with it
because i didn't get the original vet check done.
What can i do?
Chrisy
You are in an unfortunate position here. Get legal
advice for sure but it is my opinion that you are on
shaky ground and that doesn't make good Court news.
The Vet check was for your friend not you, it wasn't
definitive for sure and where it may well be that
protocol dictates that some Vets would scope, I
doubt it would be set in stone. Therefore you would
have difficulty pressing that point in a Court. The,
the Horse got EI and there is the complete doubt for
the Defense to push to the Court. They would have to
accept that doubt as it could be that EI did cause
it. Be careful on this one. Regards
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Thankyou
Dear John,
thanks for your advice, I knew that I shouldn't be
training the boys in their home paddock but my
husband doesn't seem to think I know what I am
talking about and I need a 'specialist' to tell him.
I have actually never got close enough to smell
Smoochies penis (I shall stop the quaint Australian
euphemisms and write plain english), other than when
washing him and if it's there hanging out, and it
usually is, I wash it with water too. It's just that
it spends a lot of time hanging out and is very
noticeable. Very noticeable. Well, I shall get used
to it, I often tap him on the belly and tell him to
put it away. Sometimes he listens. My hubbie has
finally purchased a riding helmet so I shall have to
put my money where my mouth is and put him on a
horse and teach him what little I know about
riding....LOL now we shall have two people falling
off and having bruised bums!
Regards Lauren and George, Smoochie, and Trevor and
probably now Graham as well....
Lol. He is just a
relaxed Boy :)
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On a horsey
note, do rearer’s on the ground (rearing to evade)
tend to become rearer’s under saddle? I have an old
gelding that was an excellent rearer in the paddock,
a real show stopper, yet under saddle or on the
ground you couldn’t ask for a better horse, the
thought wouldn’t enter his mind…..One of my
youngsters has engaged in paddock play rearing with
him, he’s also become pretty good at it…While
attempting to float him one day, he threw a couple
of rears on loading and I’m wondering if this is
what I can expect of him under saddle..
Many thanks
Joyce
It doesn't follow that the Horse will do that under
saddle Joyce but it does follow that the Horse will
be more inclined to choose that option should it
need to but only if Human bad management causes
that. However, if it did so, it is highly important
that the Trainer is a good one so they can nip it on
day one. Mrs. HP had one rear on her today and I
predicted it two days ago. The Horse had never done
it before and would not have had things have gone
smoothly through the transition to the ridden World
with the owner. As you know, it is normally the last
resort for horses. Regards
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Hey you! Are
you still trying to take off the Kilos from
Easter....I am lol. Question about leg pressure when
riding in a circle. John, what part of the leg are
you putting 'on' I thought it was just the calf
down, but a girl at work says she puts her whole leg
on. I can't see how this would work, wouldn't it put
too much tension in your leg this making your stiff?
cheers
big cheddar cheese bum chelle
Hahahaha. The mind boggles. I lost all that weight.
The Boss has had the whip out. I am like a whippet
Pup at the moment. A racing tadpole :) Poor
Americans :)
Calf of leg on and that's all. Virtually never
anything above the knee.
So
you have an ass like a Cleveland Bay then? Nite
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I have a 5
yr old mare who has been very quiet on trails with
other horses but recently she has begun to kick at
other horses who get near her on the trail. She is
kept pastured with a bunch of other mares and they
are similar ages 3-5 yrs. The herd she is with seems
to be going through a hierarchy establishment
period. I guess it's the age when they do that. But
what do I do about her kicking at strannge horses on
trail rides? Thanks, Elly
Elly
You discipline the Horse Elly. That is unacceptable
and it is generally your friend who ends with the
Broken leg. Start low. A warning with the voice, a
slap on the neck but soon up the scale with the whip
if the Horse does it again. Warn her and if she
dares then, give her a decent crack simultaneously.
Then back to verbal warning for just ears back and a
little slap on neck to warn the Horse. Up and down
the scale of discipline to whatever that horse
requires as per her personality and cockiness.
Easily fixed and in my case, one ride only. You have
the responsibility to protect your friend Riders!!!
I have seen many metal plates inserted into lower
legs of people due to this.
Regards
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Hi John,
I have recently bought a 2yr gelding to eventually
replace my OTTB mare. How can I stop separation
anxiety building in a young horse when I only have
the two horses on the property? Both live with or
next to a bull, but neither are that attached to him
when one of the horses is absent. I rotate the
horses into different and separate paddocks, but
always within sight of each other.
Kind regards,
Julie
Get rid of the OTTB and keep the BULL :) I may
joke but that is exactly what I would do. Tomorrow.
They are bad influence and the Horse will likely
affect your Horse. :( Let the young Horse bond with
you and the Bull. Far better option and taste :)
Regards
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10th
April, 2008
I have finally got around to sorting out my Saddlery
page and listed my new stuff. Go here for a look.
One of the Product is an invention by my Cousin,
Michael O'Leary who has great success with
controlling wind suckers with it. A client has been
trialing and testing it on a Horse for the last 12
months. Here is what she said.
"
Hi John,
Just wanted to send you some feedback on the wind
sucking collar I bought from you.
Caesar is a 16.3hh 14 Y/O OTTTB that I brought home
this time last year; wonderful nature but as a
result of a racing career, was a chronic windsucker.
I was using one of those typical collars that you
can pick up from any old saddlery which was more
like an ornament than a preventative for his
problem; basically it did nothing and in no time at
all my fences were a mess.
Sucking was the first and last thing on C’s mind -
if he was stressed he would suck, if he was waiting
for his dinner he would suck, if he was in between
munching hay, he would suck. It was a real mental
problem for him that had manifested into a
physiological behavior, and it drove us both nuts.
I read about your new collar on your website, and
the rest is history!
Caesar has been wearing his collar for about a year
now; it only took two (2) or three (3) attempts to
suck with the collar on before he gave up and walked
away; sucking is impossible with this collar, it
stopped immediately.
The transformation over the past year has been
amazing; Caesar has gone from a horse whose only
interest was to suck (and as a result withdrawn from
the herd and us) to a horse that has a new lease on
life. He now initiates play with the youngsters and
seeks out people for a scratch and a carrot as
opposed to latching onto something/anything and
sucking.
The collar itself has stood up to it all; wind,
rain, heat etc.. It’s a beautiful piece of work that
will last a lifetime.
Anyone that owns a windsucker should have this
collar.
Pic to follow; I’ll take some happy snaps tonight!
Cheers,
Joyce "
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My Son came around today and his injury is going
well. He had just been for x-rays and everything was
ok. Meanwhile, my Daughter just rang up to say that
she has a piece of floating cartilage in the knee
which is why it blows up all the time and has been
for years now. Netball of course. The Doctor can't
get her into our local Hospital for 8 months so get
this. He has booked her into a Country Hospital for
the operation and bodgied her address a little. He
says that on the day, if the Hospital won't allow
her to have it she is going to have stand up for her
rights. What a bloody marvelous Health system we
have in this State. The youth of the day can't even
get seen to. Time for Mike Rann to go and let the
Colonel from the S.A.S have a go. At least he will
throw away the key on the Bikie Gangs and that would
be a good start.
The young Horse that I spoke about last night went
much better today and started to relax. Thank
goodness. Mrs. HP got him between the leg and the
rein and started to achieve a lower neck at the walk
which also assisted his frame of mind.
USING OUR
VOICE
The voice is a very powerful training aid when
working with Horses. It is in fact probably my most
effective one. However, if one uses the voice that
is at all containing tension or frustration let
alone anger, the opposite effect will result. There
are very few places where a gruff voice is
acceptable when training Horses and if in doubt,
never use one. Horses thrive on encouragement and
they bounce of vibe. The voice is one of our most
powerful emitters of vibe and if the vibe is
negative, the training will immediately suffer. Of
course, the screaming Teenager is off the Planet on
bad when it comes to Riding but they have an excuse.
They are young :) Once we mature, we don't. I wonder
do any of these subjects get taught at PC yet? When
the voice is 'mellow' the Human Body is in a relaxed
state and of course the vibes that are then picked
up by the Horse, which has Radar if you didn't know,
also relax the Horse as the 'Prey Animal' is always
at the ready to be tense as a reaction to possible
or danger and Horses compute 'possible danger' to
'probably' danger. So no matter what your Horse may
do to get under your skin, remember there is no
place for stern voices, only happy voices, southing
voices and of course the stroke of reassurance.
TRAINER
KICKED IN FACE
GEELONG horse trainer Kelvin Smith was in intensive
care at The Alfred hospital in Melbourne last night
after being kicked in the face by a horse.
Smith, 47, had a fractured skull and severe facial
injuries.
Doctors were last night trying to relieve pressure
on the brain.
His wife Karen said Smith was expected to undergo
surgery last night.
Fellow trainer Mal Carson said Smith didn't breathe
for two minutes and was unconscious for five minutes
on being kicked in the face.
Smith was unloading horses off a float at the
Haworth Court stable complex in Breakwater after
morning trackwork at 8.30am when the accident
happened.
Karen Smith said her husband had been forced to
float horses to the nearby racecourse since the
crossing in Fellmongers Rd was closed for safety
reasons last year.
"I knew this was an accident waiting to happen, he
never likes transporting the horses,'' she said.
Mrs Smith doesn't want to see her husband until he
comes out of surgery.
Carson was with Smith when the accident happened and
administered first aid and phoned for an ambulance.
"I'd given his horses a lift back to the stables in
my float and he'd unloaded them and we were standing
there having a chat,'' Carson said.
"He'd gone through the proper procedure, the horse
had a
rearing bit in its mouth and the incident was
totally unforseen.
"Kelvin had the horse on the lead and whether it
took fright or was just playing, but it took a
couple of steps and lashed out with its hind legs.
"It caught Kelvin flush on the face and somersaulted
him backwards.''
Carson said Smith didn't breathe for two minutes,
was unconscious for three minutes and became
coherent after five minutes.
The ambulance took Smith to Geelong Hospital where
he underwent a catscan.
After three hours, he was transported to The Alfred
by ambulance.
Our sympathies to the Family and wish him a speedy
recovery.
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The Horse
Logger passes through Van Wert again
By JILL DEWERT
Times Bulletin Multimedia Editor
A covered wagon, three horses, two dogs and a "big,
burly man with a full beard" passed through town for
the second time this past weekend.
The big, burly man is "Lee the Horse Logger." He has
traveled across the country in his farm wagon that
has been converted to his "home on wheels."
Lee travels at a rate of just 2 to 3 miles per hour,
takes one day at a time, has experienced almost
every weather condition and has met thousands of
people along the way.
Each day, Lee travels around 12 to 25 miles,
depending on many different factors like the
weather, terrain and his level of exhaustion. His
animals are Suffolk Punch horses and Pyrenees dogs.
When asked why he is making such a journey, Lee
replies with "grins and giggles," "for the fun of
it" or "just because."
Lee began his trip in August of 2006, leaving from
his home state of Montana and embracing poverty with
just $75 dollars in his pocket.
On April 26, 2007, he arrived in Van Wert during a
downpour for an overnight stay. He then continued
his journey on to Boston, Mass., arriving in July of
2007, before turning back towards the west coast
about a month later.
This past weekend, Lee passed through Van Wert once
again. He stayed overnight in the Wal-Mart Super
Center parking lot before heading out in sunny
weather on Sunday, April 6.
Lee has no agenda other than to tour America.
Although he's a cancer survivor himself, he's not
fighting for any cause, including his own. He
doesn't ask for handouts or donations, although they
seem to find him wherever he goes.
In a later portion of in his journey, Lee began
replying in interviews - but not without good nature
- that he's "tired of talking about himself." Still,
he continues to share his story and greatly
appreciates meeting new people and the generosity
they show him and his animals.
Lee relies on the generosity of others and the
connections they have to get through his trip. He
might meet someone who knows someone 10 to 20 miles
down the road who knows someone 10 to 20 miles down
the road, and so on. That's how he makes it along
from day to day.
The monetary donations he receives go toward making
his animals and himself more comfortable. Since the
last time he passed through Van Wert, he upgraded
his wagon and added a horse. He has plans of adding
another wagon and another three horses sometime down
the road.
Lee plans to reach California later this year and
then Alaska by 2011. More information about Lee and
his journey can be found online at
www.leehorselogger.com.
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Horse sanctuary anger at judge's order
09 April 2008
A Norfolk charity has reacted with anger after a
court ordered that 29 donkeys and ponies be returned
to a family accused of causing unnecessary suffering
to more than 100 animals in their care. The
International League for the Protection of Horses (ILPH),
based in Snetterton, said it was “appalled” at the
decision made by Oxford Magistrates' Court on Friday
to return the animals to the Gray family.
RSPCA staff and vets removed 125 animals from
Spindle Farm, Hyde Heath, Amersham, Buckinghamshire,
in January.
Some 21 horses, ponies and donkeys were taken to
Redwings Horse Sanctuary at Hapton near Long
Stratton and 11 others
were taken into the care of the ILPH.
James Gray, 44, Julie Gray, 40, Cordelia Gray, 19,
and Jodie Gray, 25, all of Spindle Farm, have denied
12 charges of animal cruelty.
Deputy district judge Sandeep Kainth agreed to
return 29 donkeys and ponies considered pets but
rejected the family's application to have the
remaining 82 animals returned. These animals will
instead be sold at auction in May in Warwickshire.
The RSPCA had argued that it should be allowed to
oversee the
re-homing of the animals in order to safeguard their
future welfare.
Following the hearing, Tony Tyler, deputy chief
executive of the ILPH said: “Having to return the
horses is the worst possible situation for our yard
staff who have spent the last three months looking
after them and giving them the care and treatment
they deserve. We will be working closely with the
RSPCA to do everything possible to get this decision
reversed.”
The case was adjourned until April 28 when it will
be heard at the same court.
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Two
juveniles arrested after spooking horse with
fireworks
Suffolk police have filed animal cruelty charges
against a 17-year-old girl and her 14-year-old
brother for using fireworks to intentionally
frighten a horse. That horse was so scared it ran
off and injured itself.
Police say the horse was being walked on a lead by a
12-year-old girl. When the animal heard the noise it
got frightened and ran into a live hot wire.
Police say it injured its front legs, but the
injuries were not life threatening.
The girl's father Ray Norman tells WAVY.com, "that
it was done intentionally to scare the horse. The
horse got hurt. My daughter could have gotten hurt.
If the horse had ran into the road multiple people
could have been killed."
The parents of the teens involved declined an
interview, but say off camera it's an ongoing
neighborhood dispute.
Police say animal cruelty is a misdemeanor.
Ray Norman says he hopes it doesn't happen again.
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LETTERS
OF THE DAY
Dear John, a
couple of questions for you. I have been told that I
should not riding our horses in their 'home' paddock
or exercise them there either, that I should take
them to a different area where they don't graze, etc
for riding practice and exercise and lunging and
stuff. I don't have that kind of room so I have been
locking the spectator horses into the stable yard
while I do things with the working horse (usually
George or Smooch) and then working near there as the
ground is best there. Is that okay? Why, and why
not?
That is a general rule, designed to keep Amateurs
out of trouble with their Horses and it can and does
promote resistance and trouble. However, if you have
well behaved Horses that are not exploitative, do
what you like with them of course. Their paddock is
their place of peace and rest and should be kept
that way.
And...often when grooming Smoochie ( the
standardbred), he will stamp his front hoof.
Sometimes the ears are back sometimes not so I am
not sure what to make of this, he can get a little
pushy but I put that down to him being herd boss and
such and trying it on with me and I have never felt
threatened by him and he has not done anything that
I could say was 'no on'! ...
If nothing developes, ignore the whole thing and
just keep it in the back of your mind. Such things
can mean different things coming from different
Horses. I saw one do it yesterday and that was a
threat to 'TOTALLY LOSE IT"
And I have never seen a horse "drop his donger" as
much as this horse does. I know that geldings will
relax sometimes, but this boy is either so relaxed I
should stop his Prozac or it means something else.
It
can mean arousal of course Lauren. Once again, if
nothing develops, who cares. Keep it simple I say. A
few Owners do go over the top a bit when it comes to
'Dongers' (which is a quaint Australian slang word
for 'penis' to my International guests and 'dong'
means to hit one over the head hahahaha.
If it does, what? I
have watched him pee and stuff he does not appear to
have any difficulties and his equipment appears
clean and doesn't smell or have any discharge so I
don't think it is a vet problem (yet???), what do
you think and what is your advice please. (Be nice).
I have never smelt the penis of a Horse. Never got
that close lol Perhaps you have exceptional smell
Lauren
Lauren and George the thoroughbrat, Smoochie the Zen
Horse and Trevor (just Trev to his mates)
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Hi John,
Wondered whether you may have any thoughts on this?
Will try and explain as briefly as possible!
My horse is agisted with a family, they have 3 other
horses, and I have my one. The lady who owns the
property looks after her 3, I look after mine.
The owner feeds her horses earlier than I do, at
around 4.30/5.00pm. Due to work etc, I usually don’t
get out to the horse until 5.30 / 6.00pm-ish (HATING
end of daylight savings…!!).
My problem is this… as soon as the other horses are
brought into their overnight yards for feeding (with
my horse still out in paddock), he starts pawing the
fence. I understand that this is because he wants to
come in and get fed… fair enough!! So he paws and
paws, occasionally breaks a fence wire, usually cuts
his heels… etc. To stop him doing this, the property
owner began throwing him hay to stop him…(in my mind
– rewarding him!)
(electric fences are up too high, he paws under
them).
Well… now he paws all the time. Constantly, as soon
as he spots a person, any time of day! I’m presuming
this is because he has been ‘rewarded’ for the
pawing… (he’s a very smart ASH… not biased, he
really learns things quickly). He digs holes in his
yard pawing, breaks fences, and hurts himself… No
amount of ignoring, yelling, smacking, etc etc seems
to be able to stop him! I’m resorting to ignoring at
this point, but doesn’t seem to help.
What can I do to break this behaviour?
I never feed him when he is pawing, make him stop
before he gets his feed, but doesn’t seem to help.
The property owner now brings him into the yardat
the same time as others, but doesn’t feed him (as I
usually ride), so instead he stands in his yard
pawing big holes!
I am soon to move agistment places, so would love
some ideas on any way I can ‘untrain’ this very
annoying habit…
(tell ya what though, he’d make a brilliant
‘counting’ trick horse… !!!!!)
Any ideas??
Yes, that was caused by the actions of the person.
Now you have to break the mental habit. This is the
classic case for hobble training, not to throw on
the Horse like getting Chicken Nuggets for Kids but
in a sophisticated training way. I would nip that in
the bud immediately but you are at a great
disadvantage when you don't own the property.
Regards
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Hi I just
read your blog on the rearing horse. I found it very
informative. I have just purchased a beautiful
Australian Stock horse 5 year Mare who was broken in
at 3 years old, ridden a couple of times per month
for the past 2 years, then left in a paddock for the
past 4 months. She is nervous in the arena and when
I was on her the other day asking her to trot
circles (boring I know) she reared up on me so I
gave her the reins,
held on for
dear life but also tried to pull her head round to
the side and then she over-balanced, taking me down
with her.
I do not believe that this is a trait of hers, I do
believe that it was because I was asking too much of
her. I have found out that she has not had much
attention. Anyhow my question is…. Do I persist with
her (which is what I want to do) or do I not take
the risk and try to move her on.
Your guidance would be appreciated.
Regards,
Rebecca
I often warn Rebecca that the 'One Rein Stop' or
lateral flexion is NOT for the rearing Horse. It
makes them fall down.
Do you persist? If it were the only instance well of
course one must give the Horse the benefit of the
doubt. All will be revealed but I would want to see
a pattern before thinking about getting rid of the
Horse Rebecca. Be careful of that flat work arena!!!
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Thank you!!
for you reading this. I need your help as I want to
restart a 6 yr old gelding unraced TB gelding
(Seattle Slew/Roberto). Following a psychotic break,
I took him out of training and for 1.5 yrs have
"restarted" on the ground only. Given his
extraordinary abilities and beauty, I have given him
the benefit of the doubt and now want to restart
him. Unfortunately, his vertical rear and wheel have
made him the barn pariah. The shoer and I are the
only ones he really listens too, and that depends on
his mood.
I was a professional english hunter/jumper at many
show barns through my early 40s, but am now 57 and
hesitate to attempt this task alone. However, I am
not finding much in the way of local trainers to
take it on. I don't want the same mistakes made
again -- the unrelenting ground work, anger and fear
from a "trainer". Can you recommend anyone in the
Los Angeles/Orange/San Diego Counties of California
who could either take him into training, paper break
him and/or lay him down? Or better yet, do it where
he is now? He is extremely intelligent -- learns all
the games schtick and trys to use them to HIS
benefit.
Thank you for your expertise with this problem and
taking the time to respond.
susanne
I am in Australia Susanne so I am not familiar with
people in your area. I would strongly agree with you
that this is not a risk you should be taking by the
sound of it and therefore would recommend you
getting in a Riding Professional to assess the Horse
and report to you. You DO NOT need a NH person for
this job. The Horse would have had enough of that
and besides, it has no benefit with rearers. Read
this:
THE REARING HORSE
Kind regards
*********************
hello,
id just like to firstly say what a wonderful site
you have with so much information available.
after hours of browsing and reading your videos and
articles I still haven't been able to find a answer
to a problem I have with a new 2 yr old filly I have
just purchased, is there any links on your site that
will show me how to correct a horse that tries to
double barrel me when ever I try to catch her she ,
even when mucking out her yard she will reverse
towards me and line me up for a shot, it seems to be
allot worse when I have something in my hand like a
rake or spade and even when I was filling up her
water and I swung the hose out of the bath she swung
around to boot me like I was going to hit her or
something with it, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated or links to your pod casts on solving
this problem.
kindest regards
Kris
but....if it was because the
Horse has been abused then I would cement the
handling and desensitizing of the rear end of that
Horse via a full course of Australian 'leg
restraint's training' and in particular the Collar
Rope so as to provide maximum safety for the handler
and to prove to that Horse that it can be controlled
via the back end as well as being 'touched up' every
place there is hair as we say in the Bush :) Have
the Horse completely accept all and every kind of
rear end and leg handling and touching. I suspect
that this Horse is having it on with you in which
case I would combine the two immediately. I have a
Pod Cast on my 'join up" Regards
********************
9th April,
2008
Got all the kick boards on my new stables today and
tomorrow the roofs. Big job though. 60 metres long
building. Never mind, we'll get there.
THE GREEN HORSE
I was reminded today, just how poorly supported the
average Amateur owner must have been over the years
when it comes to hand over of the 'Green Horse' I
specifically speak of the about the relationship
between the hands of the Rider and the Mouth of the
Horse. To be more specific though, I mean at the
point where the owner decides to take up a contact
on the Mouth of the Horse, with a desire to achieve
a 'frame' and start heading along the road towards
things "English competition"
In fact, I don't think the subject has ever been put
into lesson or DVD form in the history of the Planet
and so the Owners' have really been left to their
own devices which is why the Mouths put on by Horse
Trainers, rarely remain in tact but deteriorate in
outstandingly short time and on a scale of 0-10 I am
talking about up to 5 points. In my experience, the
deterioration is on average about 4 points and
virtually 100% of people are in the same Boat. Not
their fault. The subject is mind boggling difficult
to explain but both Mrs. HP and I have now decided
that we simply have to get our heads around it in a
form that anyone can understand.
I recently had an unfortunate experience where the
Owner of a Horse that had an outstanding Mouth on
hand over, foster thoughts that perhaps she wasn't
to blame and in some way, think that when I next
rode the Horse to have a feel and try to put it back
on track for her that I was then part of the problem
as the Horse was acting up at the time. One wonders
what to do about that because it is very difficult
to explain where things went wrong. Most Horses
don't react adversely to confusion but some do and
in this case, due to the outstanding IQ rating on
the Horse, it had the judgment and brain to be able
to compute that compared to my rides on it where it
all went along swimmingly, that rides with the owner
lacked the knowledge, the timing, feel, savvy,
release and consistency of direction that makes all
Horses so easy and so happy. When you get a Horse
that is on the higher end of the intelligence, they
pretty soon deduce that all of those qualities of
experience aren't happening and frustration starts
creeping in. Then tension, then even 'pay back' or
even sacking the Rider all together.
So, if you are in doubt of your knowledge of how to
TRAIN a 'green Horse', for goodness sake have
immediate lessons and get help once a week, just to
keep things tuned up.
******************
Hello from
your little Darling
Gawd, I'm getting fan mail
from my Breakers :) Now, this is interesting. Check
the neck out Madam. How about the top line and the
way it is coming out of her Body. You must be doing
a marvelous job Riding her and I know why. You took
it seriously enough to take immediate lessons with
the 'Green Horse' Well done!!!
***************
Adelaide
Hunt Club
Please
organise a table and join us for a great day.
OPENING OF THE HUNT SEASON
LUNCH AT LONGVIEW VINEYARD
Pound Road Macclesfield
Featuring the Annual National Jack Russel Race and
Calcutta
11.30am Sunday 18th May 2008
Enjoy a sumptuous 3 course luncheon in the
LONGVIEW HERITAGE BARN
$120 per head
Menu by Stephanie Heaven and Louise Naughton of “The
Caterers”
Accompanied by Longview Vineyard’s Award Winning
Wines
This one is in reaction to the scores I put up last
week.
Hi John,
Interesting that you raise the issue of the low
scores at the comp last weekend; I was there and was
also quite flabbergasted as I thought there were a
few nice horses there.
Interesting to see the scores from an official comp
in another part of SA on the same weekend. I have
removed names etc to save any worries but just
thought it interesting to see the scores.
I don’t disagree that the horses at this comp
deserved their scores – not at all! They are all
riding so well and should be proud of themselves.
However I certainly wouldn’t rate them at 10% higher
than many of the horses with these low scores you
mention at DCSA – there were some lovely rides
there.
I don’t care if the scores are high or low…
consistency would be nice!! Will this be picked up
anywhere along the line by officials, or addressed?
I’d hate to think of these people living in a state
of happiness and then competing ‘up North’ only to
get slammed… My point here is in no way to bag the
other comp with the high scores – just to
demonstrate the difference that’s happening
regularly between the two regions.
Very interesting to see the variations in scores
with the judges last weekend at DCSA too…
Lovely horse Linda has there and she did a great job
riding him/her (?) on the weekend!
Cheers
Prelim – Official
63.20%
56%
58.40%
68.40%
72.40%
75.60%
64.80%
64.80%
58%
Novice Official
61.20%
78%
62%
60%
65.40%
70%
62.80%
64%
65.60%
60.60%
63.20%
66.40%
Medium
50.76%
71.67%
57.27%
56.36%
Medium
50.76%
71.67%
57.27%
56.36%
Elementary
59.33%
69.50%
51.17%
58.67%
57.00%
This just proves that the Riders' in the Bush are
better than the 'Big Smoke' :) I was quite impressed
with the quality of a lot of the Horses at Lobethal.
Basically, only members of the State Dressage Squad
got a quali and then only just. That is one tough
comp then and I wonder what that does for the Sport
in general. Will it grow the Sport? Certainly not. I
can imagine some driving home on their $1.40 a litre,
thinking, "what do I have to do?" Thanks for
the comparison.
Hi - I read
some of your advice as watched your videos when I
had an unruly young pony back in the fall. If you're
interested, you can see three recent videos of her
She's turned out to be very sweet and willing
Hi there. Yes, I remember your little Horse. Just in
case it is relevant, I wouldn't want you to think
the Horse is willing all the time as she is
exhibiting some frustration still. I would be very
careful of riding in the round pen too much. The
other thing that would markedly improve the mental
health of this Horse would be for you to lift a
little in your knowledge of Dressage Riding and
Training as your hossey is flexed off such a lot of
the time and that is why she is taking the wrong
lead so much. This type of riding gives physical
discomfort to Horses and that may be why the face.
Much improved though. Well done!!
******************
LETTERS
OF THE DAY
*************** We are going great and still read
your page every morning! It's been so busy here and
our bookings are a bit out of hand. Isn't it funny
how cross people get when they ring to book and you
tell them it's a good 4 months or so wait. If I
could book their horsey in in a week like they
expect, would we actually be any good at what we
do??? Nevermind,most people are happy to wait.
I've included a couple of photos of recent ' first rides out of the
roundyard ' with some relaxed, happy horses. Just
because it makes me happy to see such happy horses!
And also one of a Brumby stallion Fred started
recently. He is a bit of a stunner and a great
example of an Old Bloodline horse.
Anyway, back to work I guess (never bloody ends at
the moment!) Take care and watch that digging posts
in! Regards, Rachel and Fred.
Watkins Horse Handlers,PO Box 540, Bakers Hill WA,
6562.
Very nice Folks. The black
Stallion ey? He sure can move :) Regards
*********
Hi John,
I came across your site when I put a post on one of
the horse internet forums about how to get my horse
to halt and stop resisting all the time in the
downwards transitions. Someone sent me a link to
your site and said I might find it very
useful.......so far after looking through the site I
have found it very interesting. I used to do some
natural horsemanship clinics when I was younger and
have always wanted to get back into it but find it
very daunting with all the people 'claiming' to be
natural horsemen. Anyway I've read through some of
the articles and just wanted to know what I should
be doing to assist with getting my horse to halt and
stop resisting. I will be trying the one to get him
to stand still although once he stops he is iusaully
ok but getting him to stop is the problem. I use him
for level 3 eventing.
After reading some of your articles I realised I
really want help with this as can only imagine the
discomfort that it casues him by me pulling on his
mouth trying to get him to stop but feel like it's a
lose lose situation. I will be looking to make a
video to put on utube as think that's a great idea!
He is a 17yo percheron X and if there is a kinder
way of riding him then im all for it as I often
think whether my horse enjoys being ridden or not
and want to make it enjoyable for him.
Any advice would be muchly appreciated.
Kerryn
Also do you do any clinics in Victoria>?
This Horse also falls into the subject of the night
and needs some re-education. You should be doing
lot's of downward and upward transitions and add the
back up to every one of them for a while. Do 10 per
lap of a 60x20. Get the Horse anticipating 'listen
to seat' by putting 'reverse gear rate' back into
the mind of the Horse. Also, do not release or
soften on the reins until each time the Horse
softens with the head exactly where you want it as
if in a comp. When backing, if the Horse is
resisting, do not release until it softens. Keep the
rules in place. We are doing Clinics in Victoria
later in the year. Regards
*******************
Mr HP
I really am finding it frustrating to find a new
float, I live 500kms from Perth and I’m out in the
back of beyond.
It would be incredibly helpful if people who
advertise their floats would put height, width and
length. Not to mention weight and if brakes work and
what type of brakes.
I don’t care about the paint job, I want a safe
float. Sorry, after driving 300kms to look at a
float that wasn’t even close to what I was told on
the phone, I’m a little frustrated. I can’t afford
new as much as I would like too.
I know a lot of people read your site daily so
hopefully it might get through to a few.
Tan
I agree Tan. Highly
relevant to any Buyer. The same goes for Gooseneck
Sellers I notice. Often no width on the ads and that
is necessary info if you want an 8 foot one. Regards
********************
Hi John,
Thank you for taking the time to create this page.
I am so confused.
I have $14,000 to buy a float.
I have been on ebay and have read hundreds of
advertisements, seen 20 floats and have visited the
main manufacturers.
You would think that I would be extremely informed
but I am just incredibly confused.
I am after the best value for money when purchasing
a two horse angle float.
I like Rowville, Pegasus and Stallion but am unable
to purchase a new one and cannot find a decent
second hand float.
Any ideas, do I go for a cheaper float, do they come
with all these problems.
I have been tossing this up since October last year.
It’s driving me mad.
We would be using this float at least once a week
maybe more
I want it to last and be safe. Flashy isn’t so
important.
If you can help I would be thrilled.
Thank you
Kind Regards
amanda
I don't know what to say to you Amanda. All of those
Companies build pretty reasonable Floats. It really
just comes down to personal choice now because when
it comes to the ultimate in safety appointments etc,
there are none. You may have arrived at "eny meny
miny mo " :)
*******************
took skye to
arab main event show sunday 6/4/08. two victorian
judgesi am proud to let you know she was a very well
behaved filly and cme ist in the filly derivative
best head class ,first in the filly best trot
class,champion filly three years and under and the
to top it off came second in the best s.a. bred
junior derivative at the moment michelle is riding
skye and she has had many comments about how well
she is going for a three year old enclosed photos
for you to see.
cheers Sue.
Congratulations Sue. What a Doll?
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Hi there,
I have a mare that is very claustrophobic and when
put in a confined area such as a yard or a float
will weave OUT OF CONTROL! I have done the PArelli 7
games with her, and am working a great deal on the
squeeze games to try and help her confidence - she
is particularily bad at going over things ie
barrels. In the float her weavng is so bad it moves
the car around. A friend of mine suggested that I
put knee hobbles on her in the float so that she
dosent get a "swing up". What do you think about
hobbles in this situation? is there anything else I
should be trying first. She goes on and off the
float fine, but once she gets in there she starts
weaving and gets in a trance like state.
Any help / comments / suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Lisa
Western
Certainly, some form of leg restraints such as that
could assist in breaking the mental blank however,
not without plenty of formal training in the round
pen to handle such equipment first. There are many
such alternatives one could try. Process of
elimination but often it can be the float design,
view and so on. Does the Horse do it when in
company. It may well just be one of those
'separation anxiety Horses' that would do it in a
paddock if left alone??? This is a complex situation
where much experimentation would need to go on and
points ticked off to get down to a firm knowledge of
what it really is that makes this Horse tick. Then
you could fix it. Change floats, travel with company
and so on. Send me a photo of the float. Inside and
out. Cheers
*****************
Hi John
Not sure if you've seen this yet or not, OMG what
will be next????
I'm half way through building a round yard, 6 foot
tall with 3 rails and a kick rail at the bottom to
hold the sand in. I'm finding the rubber is
unbelieveably expensive (I'm in Vic). Is it
dangerous to use round yard without the rubber till
I can afford to get it? What are the main risks? I
am going to break in my 4yo in when the roundyard is
built, having him booted up during the process of
course.
Cheers
Jo
Generally Jo, no problems with that. It is just if
you get one steamed up, the rubber gives extra
protection. If you have a Horse that is pretty
casual and you are not gung ho, no problems. Regards
********************
Hi John!
I reckon you're doing a great job on your stables!
Whats the ideal size for a shelter/stable ie height
width etc?
Many thanks
Joyce
I tend to over kill Joyce. These are 4m wide, 3.6m
deep with a 4m x 2.7 m tack room attacked and a 18
metre yard. Height at front 2.8 and at back 2.6
measured beneath roof timbers. Roofs on tomorrow.
All kick boards on today. :) 30 bloody degrees would
you believe today :(
*************
Howdy
I have been asked to take on some hayburners to do
under saddle training. They are older horses
4-7yrs.Basically they all have the usual probs that
humans hate but dont have the tools to fix so I
suppose I better get into them too.LOL Am
re-mouthing first up- John you have me as your
diciple now!!
I have this problem-
I dont know what to charge folk when they ask me for
this re-ed training?
Next question is- how long will it take?? Well I say
all horses are different they will let me know so to
speak.
Per day what do recommend if you were training 5
days a week as I am farmer too!! Have to look after
those dam sheep and get the crop in around all this
you know LOL
Thanks
Amber WA
PS I am not breaking others nags yet only my own.
Not up to that yet but under saddle training for
shying jig jog making a bold horse I am THERE after
re-mouthing hee hee ORS!!!
Re-Mouthing 4 days Amber. Max 5. Best of Luck with
it. You may be interested in that re-mouthing DVD
when I finish it lolol. I have now decided to ad the
subject of my editorial today to it as God know,
people need to understand. Regards
****************
Hi John,
Big congratulations to Grace Bowman, who has been
selected to go to the Paralympics representing
Australia in Dressage. A kind person in Victoria has
lent her a dressage horse, as hers is not up to it.
Well Done Grace! A spot well earned and we are sure
she will do Australia proud.
Annie. Stan, Lizzie and Razzie.
Well done Grace. Go Ozzie Go :)
****************
Hi John,
Would like to pick your brains on a "small" problem
I am having with my rather large wb x :)
You might remember him from the perth clinic (big
solid bay) - I had the canter issues (that I though
may be soreness related) but Linda sorted that out
pretty easily - on a good note his canter is pretty
well sorted out now - did 3 hack shows in the last 2
months and came home with one broad ribbon plus a
lot of firsts and seconds :)
The 'small' problem is a floating related one. My
boy floats well, self loads and I've done a lot of
work with him over the years to make sure he's a
good floater. He generally travels well until we are
heading home. Unfortunately he knows when he is
about 2-3km from home now (had the same problem at
his previous home) and he starts. He paws and bucks
and will occasionally try and double barrel the ramp
(the size of my float makes it difficult but in my
friends big float - WOW and she had a camera
installed so we really saw what he was doing).
I learnt early that he paws and so he has a 'door'
under the chest bar now to stop that (learnt after I
had to replace the front floor boards). He still
tries but doesn't get the momentum up. There is no
doubt my float is too small for him (standard
Olympic - the new one is being saved for). But there
is no hesitation in going on/off and he will happily
stay on even with the ramp down on arrival etc. And
as I said he travels well generally until we near
home. He also does the same behaviour in a friends
super large float, with or without another horse in
it (he is never travelled with company in my float -
too small).
It seems to me its very much an impatience to get
home. He can be a stressy horse and does like his
routines and being "home" (i have noticed he is very
much one of the WB you have spoken about - generally
better out than at home).
I am getting very frustrated with this behaviour -
it really tosses my car and float around. Any
suggestions?? I have tried stopping when he starts
and moving on again once he stands (took 30mins to
travel the last km home) and it did seem to improve
but I am limited on the roads as to where it is safe
to do that.
Thanks
Niki
Mmmmm. Yes, the Olympic is too small and those front
boards can cause scrambling in some horses so people
pick your mark with them. Once again, different
Horses, different tactics. Providing the Horse has
no actual floating problems like scrambling, I have
used the tactic of touching the brakes with timing,
feel and savvy. The intensity up and down the scale
subtly can be a signal and a training regime to the
Horse if used with sophistication. This is just an
impatience and brat type thing. You could put one
hobble strap on each leg with a lump of heavy chain
about a foot long hanging so when he paws he learns
that he gives himself discomfort. You get out and
stand in the float with a whip and train him
verbally and with a flick for such behavior, again
with perfect training timing, not just hitting the
Horse. Using the word 'No' but not in a yelling way,
just a directive way. You could leave him in the
float when you get home until such time as he shuts
up and goes to sleep and then let him out instantly.
So his actions don't profit him and there are many
other things but I must go to Bed. Boss is calling
:)
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Hi John
Thank you so much for the DVD's...all arrived and
great viewing.....
Also, was wondering whether you could keep putting
photos of your new stable block on your webpage as
it progresses....its giving me some fantastic and
slightly more affordable ideas for my own stables
(which I'm desperately trying to get organised) ....
hope this isn't too cheeky a request ....
Cheers and many thanks...
Dany Johnson
(an avid fan of your website)...
No worries. Will do. Thanks
*************
Hi John
I was just reading about Rebecca and her 'wont put
weight on' Appy, and wanted to reccomend getting him
blood tested for selenium deficiency. A mare I owned
had it, and once we treated her for it her condition
improved very rapidly. However its dangerous if
overdosed so you have to test for it first.
Cheers
Helen
Thanks Helen
****************
Well John
and Linda,
Today was different for me. I went to pony club for
the very first time at 30. I was in the town and saw
the horse floats. I thought I would go look. I
parked the car and had both the kiddies with me. In
teresting combination small kids and beginner mum
and no horse. Well I watched for about a half hour
when I finally got Jack of the kids talking so loud
I couldn't concerntrat on what was going on and the
ants were thick on the ground so I went home and
gave the kids a serve on their behaviour and said
they had a second chance of watching if they would
shut the hell up. They both agreed. We put on our
boots and went back. They were much better behaved
second time around and it helps when you have food
in their mouths. I got to listen that time. I took
them both to sit closer and I was pleased to know
the guest insructor was teaching to ride on a loose
rein. she gave a lecture on floating and saddle
fitting. It was great until my three year old threw
a stick and hit a car. guess who got a clip arround
the ear and taken home? Both really enjoyed their
day but it was too long for my 3 year old. There
were some interesting young girl riders and a
visiting club. Both my kids are horse mad. I want to
join as I feel they have the horse at heart here and
wish I was a better rider with more confidence. I
think if I wistled the whole time I would get
through it but I would look a little strange as well
as drown out the voice of the instructer. There are
a few girls there who really can ride and I think I
will get in contact with one or two of them for a
lesson. I think the teen girls would love the pocket
money. There were some girls there that were only
young on 4 yo horses and they were quiet as.
Interesting when a horse escaped its roap tying and
started to run a muck showing off that he was free.
Some of the others got excited. I have no float and
bear would have to be ridden there it is over 5 km
so I need to be confident that I will make it there
alive. I have dirt roads all the way and Bear has
hard feet do you think shoes would be needed to ride
on gravel?. Hubby has promised me a day to come over
to see you guys for a lesson. I will be in contact
soon for an appointment. It will be next month.
Depending on what you think of his mouth I would
like to leave him there for remouthuing. How long
does this take?
Well Cheers for now
From Cindy
5 days Cindy. Sounds like you had a great time :) I
wish I had have been there :)
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Hi John,
Was referred to your website by numerous people and
after reading some of the topics of your problem
index I must say your knowledge and experience
impressed me :) So i was wondering if i could grab
your advice on a few things?
Okay, I just bought a 17hh rising 8 year old gelding
who has been off the track for 18 months and given a
basic education and a basic dressage education. He
appears to have quite good ground manners, and he
has a very kind eye and is also very quiet and well
mannered when being tacked up. When I rode him he
hadn't been ridden for approx. 8 months so I rode
him in a small round yard first and he was very well
behaved, he was very light on the bit and i held him
lightly and gave him head and he didn't rush me or
take advantage of this. After I was confident with
him I took him into a larger arena and put him into
a trot he was good, but threw his head around a
little and I think this made me a little nervous and
stupidly as he hardened his mouth I hardened my grip
on the rein, which maybe was the wrong thing? So
basically my question is, what do I do when he gets
hard on the bit? Do I tighten the reins.. or?
Ps: I'm an intermediate rider
Kind regards,
Skye
Incredible Skye. That subject again. That depends in
what style you are wishing to ride the Horse in.
Pleasure rein, Western or proper English. There is
no point attempting the latter unless you fully know
what you are doing or under the eye of a Coach. In
short, more hand, more leg to support hand until
horse softens at the pole and jaw and then you
instantly soften to the light contact with the Horse
will on the bit with legs softening equally. Repeat
10 million times. :) You really do need more
information of course and should seek Coaching or
Videos.
***************
Hi, I have a
5 yr old QH mare who does not groom or allow herself
to be groomed. I find this really strange, have you
ever come across a horse like this.
Cheers Leah
No Leah. I presume you mean she won't let you brush
her???? I am a little unsure of how you mean that.
****************
Dear John,
Life just seems to keep getting better. Took George
out for an airing to our local bush place with one
friend and her boy Shadow. What a great ride, some
times things just don't seem to get any better. We
walked around stuff that had blown over, thought
about NOT jumping over some stuff and figured how to
walk over it, and went bush bashing when the trail
gave out...WALKED when asked and trotted nicely when
asked. Just stood still to be mounted, didn't
immediately have to run about. Even led most of the
ride home, just a couple of scary bits that he would
not pass, even thought we had passed them on the way
out ??? So George just moves aside to let the other
horse go first and then goes back to the front
again. At one stage my stirrup leather broke and I
rode the last 15 minute of the ride without it, AND
George rode that 15 minutes without a companion near
by. We got a little separated from each other and
although I know George could hear the other horse he
could not see him but he was totally unperturbed and
just kept walking along. Now, he comes the really
scary part. Don't laugh at me - okay. On the last
part home I practised sitting very still and calm in
the saddle and concentrated on the way I wanted
George to go, which way I wanted to go around
obstacles and things...George complied with every
thing unerringly. I probably was giving tiny signals
that he is interpreting, but it just seems like I
was thinking I wanted to go that way and George was
going that way. I was thinking calm and quiet and
George was calm and quiet. So there you have it.
Nice bond with my boy. He has been very put out with
me the last week because I rode the Smooch Horse
last week. I have not been getting anything but
complaints when the feed is late...lol.
Regards Lauren and George and The Smooch Horse aka
Floyd and Trevor (who is definitely a gelding and
not pregnant even though he has a fat belly!)
Lol. So you are becoming a 'centered rider' Lauren
:) That was very inventive of you and very
exploratory. Well done. It is amazing how they can
read you, isn't it. That's why we love them so much
:) Don't you make that Smoochie jealous but :)
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6th April, 2008
Not much Horse work for the past three days. I got
stuck into this with the help of my good Mate, Peter
Brown the Computer Man. Not bad for a couple of Ol
Foggies ey?
Mrs. HP off teaching Pony Club
today and although it is supposed to be 23 degrees
only, it is too hot.
What does the future hold for
South Australia. Well, it is going to end up a giant
hole in the ground and will be occupied by Immigrant
Workers who probably will come from India etc as
they can handle the heat. The South Australians will
be all long gone. No River Murray any more because
the other bloody States won't give us any water, the
Cows have to walk 2 k out on the Mud to get a drink
at Lake Alexandrina. Oh what a mess we have made of
this Country and bugga all has been done to rectify
it. Oh, forgot, we are changing our light bulbs :)
I see the SA Police finally
took DNA samples off a dozen known Gentlemen who are
of interest due to the Family Murders. Two weeks
before the Mulligan Enquiry was released in
Parliament stating that yes, the Family Murderers
had been having their way with some 4,000 kids over
35 years here. But why now, why 35 years later? Ah,
because they knew the report was going to be
released and the Government knew it needed to be
seen to be doing something. They are all as corrupt
as each other.. The lot of them. 35 years of
Governments, Liberal and Labour and they all have
plenty to hide.
LISTEN TO YOUR HORSES
There is a Pony agisted here
and I grabbed him the other day to fit a new Pony
Breaking in Roller. I girthed it up loose as and he
complained like Hell. Tried to bite me, ears back on
his head. That evening, Mrs. HP said to me, " I am
getting that Pony done for Sand as he has the
scours" There you go. Listen to your Horses. Gut
full of sand!!!!
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LETTER OF THE DAY
CHIROPRACTORS/PHYSIOS/VETS and rear end problems
with horses.
Mrs. HP taught at Pony Club
today and there was a new client there with a lovely
big 17 hand Thoroughbred build like a Warmblood. He
had problems. He had had the Chiropractor to him 3
times but the Lady was concerned as he changes leads
behind a lot. Mrs. HP asked to see him ridden and
sure enough, stiff one way, hollow the other. So she
asked for a ride and sure enough, quarters to the
inside one way and quarters to the outside the other
way and if she let the inside rein go the Horse
wouldn't change leads. Prognostication? The Horse
has definite problems
Hi John and
Linda,
I have only recently found your site and almost read
every article. Very informative and useful
information that is very difficult to find, thanks
for providing so many great services. Just wanting
to ask something. I have been reading the articles
about soundness and conformation and many of the
problems mentioned in the article about OTTB in
regards to not wanting to work round and soft
especially at the canter, high head carriage,
running, difficulty in getting him sraight, short
stepping, standing behind etc. When I read this it
sounded very much like my riding pony that I have
had for 12 months. The previous owners told me that
every time he cantered he kept changing leads in his
hind legs. I have had him examined by a chiropractor
and vets and lessons with different people as I
wanted to make sure there wasn't anything wrong, non
of these people felt that he was unsound. However I
still feel he is unsound. He has improved a lot with
his pleasure riding but the flat work is terrible
and very inconsistent. I have not been doing any
flat work lately as I do not know what to do. Every
one thinks he is naughty but I do feel there is
something wrong and he sweats a lot too. I am
wondering how I find out if he is unsound or
naughty. He had a big lack of respect when he
arrived but we have worked on this.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Also wondering do
you do any clinics in Victoria? How do I go about
getting the treatment for removing sand in the gut?
Many thanks
Leisha
So here Leisha, there seems little doubt that this
Horse has problems too. On top of the other
symptoms, the sweating is a huge give away as that
is 'pain'. I don't like saying this but it is a
fact, but the Physios, Chiro's, Bowen people and all
of the other off shutes, have no idea when it comes
to such problems. None at all. We have never met one
that has been correct and in fact we are yet to meet
a Vet diagnosis that finds such problems. We have
even ridden horses owned by Vets, the horses having
slight symptoms of problems where there is no doubt
at all that all is not right but they don't know. We
haven't told them either :) This is where Mrs. HP is
so lucky. She can get on them all and know with 100%
accuracy if there is a problem or not. Never been
wrong and sorry to say that too but it is a fact. So
you have a problem Leisha. You need to video the
Horse being extensively ridden through all the
paces, both ways and downward and upward
transitions. Send it to us. We will then point out
where you Vet has to look and you can direct them to
the investigation. We may be doing an impromptu
couple of Clinics in Victoria for the Standardbred
people in conjunction with competing. Waiting to
here from the Club concerned.
HERPES OUTBREAK
Related ItemsMore News by TopicLivestock The
University of Saskatchewan's veterinary college has
stopped all non-emergency treatment of horses at its
large-animal clinic while attempting to stem an
outbreak of equine herpes near Saskatoon.
The Western College of Veterinary Medicine stopped
non-emergency horse work in mid-March after
admitting two horses from a local riding stable,
both of which were later found to have equine herpes
virus, type 1 (EHV-1).
The two horses had recovered enough to be discharged
to their home stable by March 26, by which time WCVM
field service veterinarians were treating 13 other
infected horses on-site at the stable.
No new clinical cases of EHV-1 have been confirmed
at WCVM's clinic in the past week, nor at the riding
stable as of Friday, but the college's equine
admissions are still restricted, the college
reported Friday on its EHV-1 blog.
Regular equine clinical services at the WCVM Large
Animal Clinic will resume once horses still at the
clinic are tested to make sure they pose no risk of
virus shedding, and once the hospital facilities
have been cleaned and disinfected.
However, the college reported, it's now testing for
possible new cases in four other horses at a second
Saskatoon-area farm that may have had contact with
infected horses before EHV-1 symptoms appeared. Of
the four, one has been euthanized after showing
"severe clinical signs" of the disease, while the
other three show milder signs.
The farm's owners have restricted horse traffic on
and off their land. The owners of the stable, where
all 15 infected animals are now recovering, have
quarantined their property.
EHV-1, a relatively common horse virus worldwide, is
contagious through contact and through particles
dissolved in the air. It can be controlled by
restricting contact and with decontamination at
affected facilities.
The EHV-1 type can cause respiratory diseases,
abortions and neurological disease in affected
horses. It doesn't transmit to humans, nor to other
animal species, and is not a reportable disease in
Canada, the college noted.
Noting that the outbreak has spurred significant
concern from the province's horse industry, the WCVM
and Farm Animal Council of Saskatchewan will host an
EHV-1 information seminar April 10 at the Ramada
Hotel on Idylwyld Drive in Saskatoon from 7 to 9
p.m.
"This seminar will give people the information they
need to minimize the risk of infection on their
farms and acreages," said infectious disease
specialist Dr. Hugh Townsend, who will speak at the
seminar.
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HORSE
THAT PULLED A CART
It's
been raining and the ground is heavy. A field of 24
line up for the Grand National, a race which is to
throw up a result made of the stuff of fairy tales.
Whatever the outcome of the 2008 Grand National, it
is unlikely to be more extraordinary than that of
the big race a hundred years ago.
More than any other race in the calendar, the
National is the people's race. Those who show no
interest in horse racing throughout the year have a
flutter.
They are tempted by the spectacle, the generous odds
available and, above all, by the tradition of a race
unequalled anywhere else in the world. They are also
fascinated by the sheer unpredictability of the
result, such as when Foinavon survived a mass
pile–up in 1967 and won at odds of 100/1 (444/1 on
the Tote!).
Business is so brisk that local betting shops
advertise for 'runners' to convey bets between
once-a-year punters and the High Street.
In 1908, before the existence of betting shops or
exchanges and when bookies' 'runners' were illegal,
two of the 24 hopefuls were stable companions,
Mattie Macgregor, a six-year old mare carrying 10st
6lb at 25-1 and the even less fancied ten-year-old
chestnut gelding Rubio with 10st 5lb, a 66-1 shot.
Both horses were trained by Fred Withington at
Danebury in Hampshire.
Bred by J. B. Haggin who, with the fortune he made
in the Californian gold rush, had established the
world's largest thoroughbred stud at Rancho del Paso
near Sacramento, Rubio was sent over to the
Newmarket sales as a yearling in 1899.His breeding
was good; his sire, Star Ruby, had been bred by the
Duke of Westminster and had won nine races
including, significantly, one over four miles in
which he had been held up 3/8 mile behind the leader
but still took over to win.
Rubio was bought for 15 guineas by a
Northamptonshire farmer and horse dealer, Mr
Septimus Clarke and later sold as a hunter to Major
Frank Douglas-Pennant.
As a four-year-old on the hunting field he was
sensible and always had plenty of stamina. In fact,
it soon became obvious to his new owner that Rubio
might well make up into a racehorse so he was put up
for sale.
He failed to reach his reserve price of 60 guineas
but as a five-year-old was trained by successful
trainer Brian Bletsoe. A very promising start of
three wins from three races was swiftly followed by
disaster when Rubio broke down so badly that he had
to be retired.
He was sent to the landlord of The Prospect Arms in
Towcester to pull an omnibus, in harness, ferrying
guests between the hotel and the railway station.
This sometimes entailed marathon sessions of over 30
miles at single stretch and seemed an ignominous
development in his career but it worked wonders on
his legs which completely healed.
Three years later in 1906 he was back in training;
this time with Fred Withington, a former
jockey-turned-trainer, who later trained Red Splash,
the first winner of the Cheltenham Gold Cup in 1924.
In his first year back, Rubio finished third at
Kempton, then in 1907 he ran three times, winning
once at Towcester, carrying 12 stone, and taking
third in the Grand Sefton Chase at Liverpool in
November 1907.
Withington's stable jockey, W. Bissell, chose to
ride Mattie Macgregor in the 1908 National, so Rubio
was offered to Henry Bletsoe, the son of his former
trainer, who had ridden the chestnut gelding when he
had won as a five-year-old.
At the start, Rubio takes an intelligent but
sensible interest in everything. His jockey plans to
take the inside route, but when this proves
difficult, he decides to just give the horse a
'sensible' ride.
He isn't expecting to win and ahead stretches four
and a half miles and thirty formidable fences.
Three horses fall at the first but Rubio jumps it
well and by the Canal Turn on the first circuit is
lying fourth.
A bad mistake follows so Bletsoe decides to give the
horse a breather even though this means losing a few
places.
Rubio takes off too early at the water jump but
survives and at the beginning of the second circuit
is one of the only seven remaining horses from the
24 together with stable companion Mattie Macgregor
and the 1905 winner, Kirkland.
From this point onwards Rubio begins to assert. He
outjumps and passes other tired horses so that by
the time they round the last bend he has an
unassailable lead and runs on to beat Mattie
Macgregor by ten lengths, giving Fred Withington an
unprecedented first and second in the race – a
training feat never since equalled. He becomes the
first American-bred horse to win the Grand National.
The following year was an anti-climax. Rubio fell,
Mattie Macgregor refused. But nothing could take
away the glory from the horse who had once worked in
harness pulling a bus.
His owner too set a record. Frank Douglas-Pennant
kept Rubio throughout his career and became the
longest-lived Grand National winning owner, dying in
1967 at the age of 101.
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HORSE
KILLERS GET SIX MONTHS GOAL
After more than a year that saw a guilty plea
rescinded and a mistrial, the case against two Pike
teens charged with shooting several horses may have
finally been resolved.
Pike Circuit Judge Eddy Coleman sentenced Jacob
Leslie Ratliff and Michael Ross Damron, both 18, to
serve a total of six months in jail for their crime,
with the credit for their time served counting,
forcing them to spend 99 more days in jail.
Police said the teens, armed with pistols and
shotguns, ran down a herd of horses in a remote area
at Beaver, near Elkhorn City, in January 2007.
Ratliff and Damron killed three of the horses and
wounded five. One of the horses was shot more than
50 times.
The only deviations from the original offer made by
Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Elizabeth Burchett
when they pleaded guilty in January are that Ratliff
and Damron will not have to file for shock probation
in order to be released after six months and
Coleman’s added stipulation that they both receive
at least a two-year degree from college.
Coleman also gave Ratliff and Damron credit for 81
days they have served in jail, but gave them no
credit for the year they were on home incarceration
prior to that.
Both the victim in the case and supporters of
Ratliff and Damron said they thought the sentence
was fair.
Jacob Ratliff’s father, Mark Ratliff, said Damron
and his son are two very intelligent, wonderful
people, but he wishes the judge would have
considered expunging the crime from their records.
“I think it was fair, but I think they deserved it
to be expunged because they’ve never gotten to vote
and have no prior record whatsoever,” he said.
“Everybody’s allowed one mistake in their life.”
However, he also said he feels that the original
intentions of the victims changed as the case went
on.
“I think it turned more away from the crime — it
turned into more of a money thing for the victims
than it was about the horses,” Mark Ratliff said.
Horse owner Trish Varney said she feels the sentence
they received was fair.
As a part of the deal, Ratliff and Damron had to
each pay $25,000 restitution to the victims. That
stipulation almost caused the deal to be called off
last month, when it was found that Damron had not
paid the restitution prior to a scheduled March
sentencing date.
That prompted Burchett to ask that Coleman not honor
the deal for either Ratliff or Damron.
However, Damron’s half of the resitution was paid
prior to Friday’s sentencing hearing.
In imposing the sentence, Coleman, who has presided
over the case since it entered Circuit Court,
explained his thought process to those gathered in
the courtroom.
In May, the teens entered a guilty plea in exchange
for which Pike Commonwealth’s Attorney Rick Bartley
offered a total sentence of two years, of which the
teens would have served 30 days.
The first plea deal was opposed by the victims, who
felt the jail time was too light. Coleman rejected
the controversial offer, and the two rescinded those
pleas.
“A light punishment would depreciate the seriousness
of the crime,” Coleman said Friday. “But an overly
harsh punishment would be detrimental to their
future. It may destroy any redemptive value of these
gentlemen.”
Coleman said he rejected the original plea deal
because he felt it was not strong enough, but that
the sentence he imposed is good because it results
in a felony conviction, which ensures Ratliff and
Damron will be supervised for the next five years.
“These gentlemen have to reform their behavior to
what society expects of them for a period of time
that would allow us to determine whether or not
they’re going to live up to all the terms and
conditions of their probation,” Coleman said, adding
they would also be prevented from using firearms
during that time.
The sentence he imposed Friday, Coleman said, is
fair.
“I believe that’s appropriate —appropriate in that
it will impress upon them the seriousness of the
events that they were connected with, but not such a
long time that any rehabilitative efforts might be
thwarted,” he said.
Attorney Steve Owens, who represented both Ratliff
and Damron, also agreed the sentence was fair.
“It’s a hard case for them, for the community, for
the victims and for everybody involved,” Owens said.
“You’ve got two very young men with no criminal
backgrounds and no history of violence that come
from very good families that made a serious and ...
senseless mistake.
“I feel confident, knowing them and knowing their
families ... that they’ll be fine,” he said
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LADY DIES
AFTER FALL FROM HORSE
Ada County authorities say a woman who was tossed
off a horse has died from injuries after tumbling
down a rocky slope in the foothills north of Eagle.
Officials say the woman and her husband were riding
Friday afternoon when she was bucked off the horse
and tumbled more than 125 feet feet into a ravine.
Investigators say they horse may have gotten a hoof
stuck, prompting it to buck the rider from the
saddle.
The identity of the woman has not yet been released.
The scene of the accident is several miles from a
paved road on land overseen by the federal Bureau of
Land Management.
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BOLTING
HORSES
Hi John,
Heard a story the other day about a trail riding
outfit in the Flinders Ranges...Rumour has it that
the said 8 horses were on their third ride out for
the day and as the "riders" were approaching the end
of the trail....all 8 horses bolted for home. We
know of one person who is in hospital with several
fractures and other folks who have been shaken up by
the experience. Tried to get the name of the company
out of my info lead...but didn't know it. Do you
reckon those poor horses had just had enough of
people bouncing around on their backs and kicking
their guts and decided to show em what for? Or were
they just plain hungry and thirsty and fed up with
being flogged. MMMM.
Horse Mummy.x
Wow, not good at all. I had a similar experience one
day. We were coming back from a 4 day Ride over
Easter and there were 30 Riders, 3 staff and 6 loose
horses. The Dogs put a big ol man roo in the scrub
that we had already past. He came barreling down the
Road from behind us and straight at us. Nearly 40
Horses shot through and you've never seen so many
white knuckled and wind swept Riders in all your
days :) Luckly, he veered off as he got close and
the Rider in front pulled them up. hahahaha. You've
never heard such loud "Sit back!!!!! "Feet
Forward"!!!!! "Pull emup!!!!!" hahahaha. Anyhow,
they all survived :)
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LETTERS OF THE DAY
Hello there
again :O)
Thanks for your e-mail :o) I have just ordered the
Retraining the Standardbred 2 DVD set and look
forward to watching the whole thing.
I am also with a group of individuals working with
rehoming standardbreds in British Columbia Canada
:O) Greener Pastures is a non-profit group ...I
adopted my first horse from them in November of this
year but had retrained three in the past. I thought
it was time for me to get more involved. So I am
trying to re-vamp their web site and also retraining
my girl for dressage to hopefully spread the word
that STB's can have useful lives outside the track.
I've attached a somewhat blurry pic of us...during
our tenth ride in the saddle ...so she is
progressing nicely but I'l love to see your dvd's
and can't wait for the new ideas! :O)
Cheers from Canada,
Rose:O)
Hi Rose. Lovely looking Horse.
Great body and head. Nice fence too :)
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Hi John
Some time ago you “lightly” encouraged me to “give
it a go” and break my horse in myself. Well…. After
mouthing as per your “Mouthing” DVD and onto the
“Green Horse” DVD, today was day two of riding
(round yard still) and I just had to share my
excitement of (a) still being alive and (b) feeling
very chuffed that I am doing it. This is from a
Cluddly etc etc 50 something year old who had lost a
lot of confidence. Probably not the best combination
however the results so far are fantastic. Getting on
a young unbroken horse knowing that you are in
control with the lateral mouth is one of the
greatest feelings you can have ( I know, I should
get out more). A small pat on the back for myself
however the thanks go to you, as it was only through
your “light” encouragement and DVD’s that have made
it possible. Many many thanks and I will keep the
dialogue coming.
One burning question. I know that you ride in a half
breed but what brand please. Love the look and idea
of them however every one that I have looked at so
far doesn’t look nearly as good as yours so would
appreciate the brand naming please.
Thanks again and warmest regards,
Kim
"Lightly encouraged" Kim? That would be a first :)
Well, aren't you an achiever then? Yet another
mature aged housewife turns 'Breaker" :)
That Saddle is a James Saddle and you wouldn't want
to deal with him. The Saddle is has major floors and
he has just treated one of my clients in a ruthless
way. So, I am having my own made right now to my
design :) Stuff em :) I cannot stand people being
sold Products that are getting less and less quality
and more and more rip off. Regards
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Hi
I am ringing around the place getting prices on
breakers in WA and what training they do with the
green horse while under saddle with them etc.
I was wondering what you charge, if thats not to
rude of me, and what the horses is able to do on
arrival to owner.
I find it frustrating as some folk are bagging a
breaker near me w