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17th July, 2008

TIP OF THE DAY

This morning, when Mrs. HP rode 'Paris', and was attempting to get the first trot steps, she was saying "Up, up" I shared with her that the Horse was trained to the words 'Trot on' or 'Cluck". So if you are going to ride a Horse for a Trainer, ask what part of the English language the Horse was taught, before you ride and use the same words. Anyhow, she was a very good girl and seems to be enjoying the challenge greatly. She will be on the arena tomorrow.

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Have the last Duccio Foal in here for handling prior to selling. She is two and half. A real cool Cat this one. Jumping Bloodlines and related to "Mr. Buck" who must be getting close to his first Event.

Duccio's first foal is leading the New Zealand Prelim High Point.

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Bo Derek is appointed to horse racing board

The panel licenses trainers, jockeys, horse owners and others in the industry.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger appointed actress Bo Derek to the California Horse Racing Board on Tuesday.
Derek, 51, best known for a cornrow hairstyle and beach run in the 1979 movie "10," is a Republican, an animal rights activist and author of "Riding Lessons: Everything That Matters in Life I Learned From Horses." She has also served as spokeswoman for the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act and owns a pet care products company called Bless the Beasts, according to Schwarzenegger's announcement.
 

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A 37-year-old woman was injured Monday after a horse she had been riding bucked andRebecca Lynn Chiado, Richmond, fell head first onto a road and ditch area. The injuries were severe enough that she was flown to St. Cloud Hospital in a helicopter, Stearns County Sheriff John Sanner said.
She was listed in critical condition this morning.

The accident happened at 6:55 p.m. at 228th Avenue in Eden Lake Township. The incident is under investigation.

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THIRD HORSE DIES OF HENDRA VIRUS

A horse in north Queensland has died from Hendra virus, the third from the rare condition in Queensland in the past week.

The horse died at Cannonvale on the weekend, and tests have revealed it was carrying the rare disease.

But Biosecurity Queensland said the death was not linked to an outbreak of Hendra virus at a Brisbane bayside veterinary clinic earlier this month.

One thoroughbred racehorse died from the virus and a second horse had to be put down at the Redlands Veterinary Clinic, in the worst outbreak of Hendra since it killed trainer Vic Rail and 14 horses in 1994.

Preliminary tests have cleared 37 other horses at the facility of Hendra virus.

Ron Glanville, Biosecurity Queensland's Chief Veterinary Officer, said the latest death was not a cause for concern.

"There are more than half a million horses in Queensland and although Hendra cases are still rare, some cases are expected periodically," Dr Glanville said.

"Fortunately, Hendra virus does not spread like equine influenza, and is very difficult to catch.

"The horse at Cannonvale has no connection to the vet practice in Brisbane, and all scientific evidence at the moment points to the timing being a coincidence."

The coverage of the Brisbane outbreak prompted the Cannonvale vet, north of Mackay, to alert Biosecurity Queensland of the death, Dr Glanville said.

The death is the fourth occasion since 1994 where there have been unrelated Hendra virus deaths in Queensland, he said.

"Every new case and new piece of information helps to increase our scientific understanding of this rare disease," Dr Glanville said.

The property at Cannonvale has been placed under quarantine while Biosecurity Queensland officers inspect the site.

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LETTER OF THE DAY

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LETTERS OF THE DAY

Hi, John,thanks for advice, will look forward to receiving them.
I stumbled upon your site recently and I'm very impressed with your mouthing system
I came late into riding and the more I was going to shows, I was disliking a lot of what I was seeing with so much iron work in their mouths and heads litrally tied down to keep an outline,I just knew there had to be a better way of obtaining that softness and happy expression.
I'm now a big fan of your podcasts and look forward to them.
My horse dan (TB) had a couple of minor issues with standing on mountup and sometimes the jig jogging on the way home but working through your podcasts and advice,he took to the technique really well,to the point that I only need to put a slight contact with one rein and he will slow up within a couple of steps, I have always had a light contact with him but it's been on two reins, be it alternately so his lateral mouth is good and when were grooming in the yard I will ask for his head and give him a treat for reward,I do this evenly both sides.
When out on a hack, yes your podcasts make me smile when you refer to the English and (loopy reins)we almost go every where on them apart from when we need a small contact if I was to cross a road etc.
When were out sometimes he anticipates were going into trot,yes, I agree with you they read your mind but if I don't want it I ask for a steady with a contact on just one rein but if he runs on I then check him with the one rein stop.
Keep up the great work you do for the horse industry.
Im so pleased that I have found a system that is kinder to the horse.
Kind regards steve. UK

Thanks Steve. Nice to know I help a little. Regards

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Hi,

Read your site.. excellent!! I'm inspired.

I have a 4 year old QHx gelding, whom I bred, who is the sunniest nature, very good. His groundwork and manners are good, but ridden he goes numb! Won't move unless bashed, and then stops as soon as bashing stops, don't worry, bashing pretty mild. Doesn't seem to want to move. Why is this? He is quite economical in his efforts with groundwork, but not numb like he is when he's sat on. I don't want to be aggressive with him, it would ruin his excellent character.

(That's not me on him, it's my friend).

Advice needed, I'm stuck. Not worked him for weeks, lost all direction.

Jo. UK

So you are beating him to death with a wet tissue Jo? :)

I have to admit this is a very difficult question that has me struggling Jo. Once they are dulled or not started properly, they are hard work. You have the other Problem, the Breed. They are laid back and want only to do the minimum. I really do have to write an article on this but meanwhile, try revving him up via his diet (race horse feed), hooning and racing with your Friends on Horseback to excite him or go to a couple of Hunts which shouldn't be too difficult where you live. That generally does the trick. Introduce cavalletti work to your flatwork and the occasional jump. Make life interesting. Set up the old flag and barrel race or similar. That normally helps. What him though and keep a balance. The rest of it is far more technical and too much to write here. One day :) Regards

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Hello to you in Australia :-)
I have been watching youre videos at youtube for a long time and I love the way you treat the horses.

I get right to the problem, I'm sure you have dusins of other mails to read today. As I am from Norway I do not have all the correct English words for everything, but I will do my very best.
I have a x-racehorse, a trotter-mare. She is a beautiful horse, extremly freindly and most of the time she is like a gigantic stable-cat instead of a horse.
She is supposed to become a dressage horse at hobby-level over time, only thing is, she does not know yet. She has had a rather tough life at the racetrack, she was angry, scared and very dangerous to drive at the track. She had a good, fast trot, but she also wanted to kill anyone who sat in the wagon or came near her at the track. Eventually her owner desided it was time to take her off the track before she killed herself or somebody else.
Withou a wagon behind her, she is the sweetest horse ever and not a problem at all to ride! Except... The trot and the galop. She struggles with the trot, in a slow trot she starts pacing (I think its kalled that, both feet on the same side moves at the same time) in a fast trot she is better, but TOO FAST!!
I galopp she can do a fearly good canter on the left rein, but on the right rein se trots with her backfeet and canters with her front feet.
I use the help-reins that you recommended on your website, here in Norway we call it a "Thiedeman-rein" and thtat reallly helped her get her head out of the clouds without struggling, the reins also did a lot about the problems with the trot and canter, but still, we desperatley need help! As I live in Norway it is a bit difficult to get on a course at your farm :-) Do you have any videos at your site that you recommend me to study?

Marit Aslaksen and Lady Cosette
Norway

Yes I can Marit. The Horse must be 'leg yielding well" and Horse must be balanced and be trained 'correct dressage' My wife's double DVD on re-training the standardbred would be of immense help to you, her "Balance at Canter" and maybe, depending on your knowledge, my leg yielding dvd. What does that tell you about the experience she had in the Racing Industry? Such a change in personality? Those Horses start to pace when they become unbalanced and they do that when they are not 'correct' in Dressage terms. "Straight"  "Supple"  "Bent and flexed" in the way of travel etc. When they do, you must immediately bring them back, re-establish balance and rhythm and go again. Going faster to get it will not help and in fact, unbalanced equals running. That used to be the common view of how to train them but my wife, an FEI Dressage Rider, has given the Breed the respect it deserved and spent the time to experiment with them. She succeeds 100% of the time, inside two weeks (providing the Horse is sound) I have watched it enough to know that it is the answer. Kind Regards

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Hi, I have a problem that I hope you can help with.

I have a 15yr old mare and we are fine in the arena, she is great and has good brakes and very responsive. However when we get out into the open that changes.
Her head goes up in the air and she sometimes jumps sideways and takes off. She has jumped over shadows on the ground and a patch of long grass.
She sometimes tosses her head about too. Her teeth have been done recently and she is barefoot.

Thing is this doesn’t happen at all in the arena, nor when road riding. Just when out in a big open space. It feels like the throttle gets turned up full.

This is my first horse so I am sure that the problem is my riding but I am not sure what to do. I now feel quite unsafe out in the paddock or bush but don’t want to spend the rest of my life in the arena.

I am riding her in a loose ring snaffle bit. I would love to go bitless but if I don’t have any control as we are now I don’t see how that is possible.

She is a lovely girl and has good manners on the ground but this is not fun at all.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Robyn AUS

People must wonder how come a Horseman keeps talking about 'correct training' to fix all sorts of problems but I do mean it. This is another article I must complete. When the Horse gets put between 'leg and hand', in a box, that is when we have supreme control under circumstances like this. That is where the proper training and the foundation stones come into play. The leg yielding to stop the horse from running through your legs and the various other things to stop the Horse running through your hands. Then it is in a box. You need to lighten your Horse up to stop it from throwing the head in the air for starters. In your case, the Market Harborough could be very handy. When their head is down where it should be, they concentrate better and are not in 'flight mode'  You should be preparing her better at home on the lunge, with running reins, to make her more submissive so that when you put leg on and take rein, she drops the head rather than flinging it in the air which only compounds the problems you are having. So proper training equals a better ride. Regards

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Hi John,

Hope all is well with you and the family, quick question that I sure hope becomes a quick answer, however, we all know there is not "quick" with horse, LOL,,,,,I am thinking of buying a mare, nice, older mare, trail rides, goes through anything, nice ol gal, however, she HATES both cross ties put on her, you can only hook one on one side of her face, anyway at all I can get her to over come this?

Wendy from Michigan, USA

Hi Wendy, they are generally not used in this Country, except in the Racing Industry and I can tell you that they are responsible for a lot of the vices that those horses end up with. Weaving and even fence walking is triggered by cross ties because they start to do what the Elephant at the Circus does. They follow the feel, left, right, left, right and in no time, they are off on a mental trip that I don't want to know about. Perhaps your Horse is a very good Judge :) I would be listening to her and after, perhaps me :) Regards

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Hi John,
Thanks for the advice on the stock saddles and i agree with you and for that reason I have never put one on her ever. I should have clarified, the saddle I use is a bates caprilli dreessage with cair and I have been through every gullet size as she has grown. I use a very soft cotton blend saddle blanket that is like a western one only much softer. I'll see if I have a photo. You can obviously see from the pic that she has a beautiful nature and that is why I am worried. I don't want her to become unhappy with being ridden. Am I right in believing that the white hair on her back is a very bad sign?

White Hair is always a worry of course and normally caused by wear and or friction that is beyond what it should be. She tends to be a little sway in the back and not real short coupled, although photos can be deceiving but she sure looks like a Doll. She would look good with one of these on her :) 


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Hi HP!

I have referred to your articles a number of times, and this time was hoping to find something addressing horse shyness. I have a horse who is a very seasoned show horse, but had a incident at one of his first shows where another horse ran into him. Since then he has been horse shy.
I have owned the horse for a year, and it wasn't a big issue with the previous owner as she had her own property and was able to ride the horse on his own in a big area. However, I agist and often have to ride with 5 other riders in a 35m x 40m arena which can be pretty hairy! Some days are ok, especially if he is with one of the older horses and we can avoid going directly head on. If the horses are going in the same direction he is fine. If he is standing he is just as bad as at the walk, trot or canter. He will shy away, spin and sometimes rear and spin depending on the situation. I have tried riding aggressively forward or bending him away but this has been unsuccessful. He is very looky on the ground and reacts the same as undersaddle.
He is a very kind horse and this is his only fault. He has been very, very successful so I think his previous owner was able to leave the problem and just work around it.
Do you have any suggestions? Could we use a positive reinforcement system rewarding him for standing etc rather than punishing the reaction?

Thank you!

Jamie

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16th July, 2008

SADDLERY PAGES UPDATE

I have fixed the substandard and dangerous Wintec and Goodwoods Girths

     

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Got some Top Shelf Bridles for nice price. You can also now choose your own Colour Combinations or styles. 3 week delivery.

oh, and my updated Stockmans Bridle with Brass.

 

and upgraded, now double stitched split reins

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MOUNTING PARIS

Mrs. HP decided that she had better ride Paris rather than I and this was the proceedings as they unfolded. Note no rope on her and she is telling me what to do. "For God's sake just get on and ride" :)

and away she went like she had been doing it all her life :)

David Farmilo thought it was quite entertaining as well as he was here at the time :)

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DETERIORATION OF THE MOUTH

One of our Clients had her Horse Bolt with her today, whilst riding out alone. Came a right gutsa but luckily no injuries. Saddle slipped at the crucial moment. Horse escaped out of paddock and onto the Highway but a nice Motorist caught him. So why did the Mouth of the Horse deteriorate so far that in the end, today, there was none?

Remember I commented on a Rider that had been having lessons with a BHAS Coach and that she had gone 12 months in lessons like this?

Forgive me for saying it yet again but that is the old PC syndrome where the Coach keeps saying "Collect up the reins!!"......"Keep the contact!!" but the Horse never softens. Therefore it never gets the 'release" This is no way any fault of the Rider but it is perhaps the best example of what happens to the Mouths of Horses that are ridden like that. They progressively deteriorate. Every second of every ride and in the end, No Mouth. It is a miracle that the Lass wasn't severely injured or the Horse being killed crossing the Main Road here in peak period traffic. Hang off the Mouth of your Horses Folks and you are tearing up $100 notes as you go.

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I went buying Hay today and brought back two square bales weighing 1200kg. The Country here is looking good this year. Thank the Lord. Wet as where I was on an 8,000 acres cropping property. 7,000 acres under crop this year. How bout that for a Farm you British people???

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Another client was asked to ride a 17.2hh Warmblood Horse which shot through as she mounted. She committed and completed the mount up, only to suffer a bad fall and 6 months off. She win's Mrs. HP to ride for her.

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Sympathies to the SA. Event Rider (another) that is in serious condition in the Spinal Unit after being bucked off. Becoming a bit regular around here.

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Decision soon on Andrew Hoy horse abuse case

A decision from the FEI Tribunal over the alleged abuse involving Andrew Hoy has been delayed because of the number of submissions received in the case.
The incident occurred at the CCI 3* Barroca d'Alva (POR), 5 to 9 March 2008. It was reported that Madeleine Brugman had used spiked boots on her horse Sundance 6 during the warm-up of the show-jumping phase. Hoy is her coach.

A hearing on May 22 was followed by a teleconference on 27 May 2008 in which final closing arguments were heard. As a matter of practice the FEI aims to issue a decision within 30 days of the latest submissions, but in this case, numerous submissions were made after the hearing and the teleconference.

This fact, plus the amount of evidence involved, has contributed to the time needed for the panel to finalise its decision.

Both deny the allegations, with Brugman saying the boots were planted in her bag Brugman said last month that she believes Hoy was set up.

She says she has no idea how the boots got to be there and that the bag had been unattended for periods of time. The boots are considered cruel in that they hurt the horse when its legs hit a fence, thus encouraging the animal to lifts its legs higher.

Hoy, a triple gold medallist, was approached by officials after he picked up the bag.

In an interview published in Australia's Daily Telegraph newspaper, Brugman said it was her belief that "enemies" may have set Hoy up.

"To me it comes across that someone is after him for some reason," she reportedly said.

She claimed officials had opportunities to approach her with the bag. "When I'm with the bag, nobody comes. When suddenly he comes to collect it, he's got five of these pit bulls around him.".

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Staff member returns positive test for Hendra

The dangerous Hendra virus has shown its ability to jump between species, with a staff member at a Brisbane clinic at the centre of an outbreak returning a positive test.
The staff member spent a night in hospital for assessment but was discharged the next day. They are not showing signs of the disease, which is carried by fruit bats.

All 25 staff at the clinic have given blood to be tested for the virus and this is the only positive result returned.

It is understood that antibodies to the virus may take up to a fortnight to appear in test results so further testing is expected.

Two horses at the clinic have died from the disease - one from the virus and the other was euthanised because of the seriousness of its condition. The 37 remaining horses have so far tested clear for the disease.

In other news, an unrelated fatal third case has been identified in far north Queensland.

The worst outbreak was in 1994 when trainer Vic Rail and 14 horses died. The virus was first identified as a result of those cases.

There have been only four confirmed human infections, all in Queensland, and two of these died. All four cases had been in close contact with very sick or dead horses.

Symptoms in humans include:

An influenza-like illness, which can progress to pneumonia; or
Encephalitis (inflammation of the brain), with headache, high fever, and drowsiness, which can progress to convulsions or coma.
Horses develop an acute respiratory syndrome quickly leading to death in most cases.

Hendra does not appear to be very contagious, but humans and horses are susceptible to the disease. All human infections have occurred following direct exposure to tissues and secretions from infected horses at the late stage of their illness or after death. There is no evidence of human-to-human transmission.

The incubation period in humans has been estimated at 5-14 days.

It is not clear how horses become infected, but this may occur by them eating food contaminated by bat urine or birthing byproducts.

No specific antiviral treatments are known to be effective against Hendra, nor is there a vaccine.

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LETTER OF THE DAY

Hi HP will get straight to the point I am riding friends green broken 4 year old Arab mare that has a real issue with push bikes.She has never been taught one rein stop and its not my gear so no chin strap and a mouth of below five at least.Trail riding as per your green horse DVD when a bike came up behind us. She bolted on a narrow trail flanked by heavy bush either side I tried immediate one rein stop but had no chance her head was gone so I absolutely did not panic just rode her till I could feel her come back to me (obviously she felt she was far enough away) and the minute she did I just sat deeper in the saddle talked to her and pulled her up. Her older paddock mate was also behind us and had bolted as well.Once back in control I stopped her sideways across trail to stop mate as I thought if she comes flying past she will try to bolt again.All this happened within about 50 metres. I then made her stand till bike passed us and practiced walk to halt transitions till she was completely focused on me.I don't believe I will convince owner to re-mouth her and want to keep riding her as I took notice of the reflections you wrote about last week and want to try and ride as many different horses as I can to become a better rider.My question is did I do the right thing or is there something else I could have done for her as much as me. Sincere Thanks Suzanne
P.S Went straight back to loose rein while doing transitions.


I think you rode very well Suzanne, kept your cool, thought about it, did not panic and blocked the other Horse. Very smart and very Horsemanship :) However, the only transgression as I see it, was to get on the Horse in the first place and to allow the Owner of that Horse to risk your life!!!!!! If you want to stay in the Horse Industry a long time Suzanne, start taking control of your destiny early in the piece for how dare the Owner hold such attitudes at the possible detriment to your safety. I also think you are a thrill seeker and perhaps a bit too much for I would not have ridden that Horse. I would have told the Owner where to put it, for the reasons I have already explained. "Ya Can't bloody tell em" :) You know it will be more suspect next time and having experienced the runner, could well do the bolter!!!!! Be careful and I suggest going and finding another Horse to ride. One belonging to an open minded Owner :) Regards

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LETTERS OF THE DAY

Hi

Have just watched your 2 “Green to Dressage” DVDs for the first time, which I have found invaluable. (Unfortunately, I can see I have made some mistakes with my green horse but now feel I have better idea how to get back on track.

In the DVDs you have shown the arena work Linda has done with 2 green horses. It would have been useful to see what she did on the ‘riding out’ days. I do make sure my young horse, Kenny, is ridden out regularly but I am not sure if there are things I should be doing on the rides out to improve my young horse as well as widen his experience. So far he is good to ride out alone or in company (though I have been careful who I ride with). Should I be doing any schooling on rides out? (I have been practising leg yielding, transitions within pace, halts, backups etc)

On the DVDs you use Oreo & another green horse, both of which are very forward-going. Although my horse is, I feel, just right in the amount of forward when I ride out, I find him not very forward in an arena or even the fairly large paddock I generally school in. I feel like I am working hard to keep him going. Does this mean that I’m asking for too much (for example asking him to canter too long)? Or does it mean I should let him break to a slower pace, for example from trot to walk, & then just ask for trot again rather than keeping him going? I would really appreciate any strategies you could offer, which may help me to assist Kenny to become as forward-going as Oreo!

When riding with another horse, I have been riding Kenny in front as well as behind the other horse. When we’re behind, he gets what I feel is too close to the other horses’ rumps. The horses we have been riding with are well-behaved & don’t kick, but I would like him to learn not to be right on the horse in front, however I don’t want to feel I am holding him back all the time.

Thanks for very helpful DVDs! Also the HORSE PROBLEMS web page which I have been trawling through – lots of great advice.

Cheers
Marie

Hi Maria, the Green Horse DVD covers out on the Trail with the young Horse so that is why Mrs. HP's DVD's doesn't cover that. She wanted to concentrate and fit all the info from the hand over of the Breaker to the Dressage Competition on the two discs.

The reason Aureo and the other Horse were so forward is because I broke them in. One of the few things I cannot answer with ease, would be your question as to how I get all of my young Horses so forward. I have been thinking about that lately and I can't tell you. It is quite amazing compared to other Horses I get on and feel from other places. I might just have a Hot ass :) The young Horses are always walked on a loopy rein, never a contact. That could be the key. At trot and canter, we ride them complete Dressage and expect proper transitions even.

A little difficult to answer that one when I don't know your schooling regime in terms of time but Mrs. HP does heaps of transitions, will tune a non forward Horse up with the whip from the start and will not accept retaliation by kicking at the whip or up and establishing respect from the outset. Then, riding fairly, softly and with all of the correct release and softening mechanisms that must be there in order to keep Horses Happy and doing the job without trying to con you. Add trot poles, jumps, and even add Oats or whatever to heat the Horse up a bit. We often find that young Horses are not fed Hot enough for the work. All of Mrs. HP's Horses get the goodies and there is no such thing as Hot Horses from Oats. That is a figment of the imagination if the work load is equal. Regards

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Hi John

One of my shets now refuses to walk on the float despite many regular past outings with at least one other pony. Once on he's fine. Running late Sunday
I had no alternative but to let him have a win:( To add to future woes I
didn't think to leave him in a confined area. His body language said it all as he romped off!

Turning to your Problem Index and suggestions the background picture obscures much of what is written. Is there a chance you could remove the background please?

I have the float reversed into a corner of a shed. Blocked in with two panels my intention is to shut him in there with feed in the float. As the area is dimly lit and to allay claustrophobia I'd tether a mate nearby for company. Is this a good way to go? Any suggestions without needing more than one person?

Kind regards
Di

I presume you mean the floating article Di. I changed the background but couldn't see the problem from this end. That is a matter of training the little one from scratch. Pick a system that is a one person one. Parelli or Tom Roberts with the tapping behind the front arm or you can tap on the rump him being so small. Read the article.  LOADING AND FLOATING OF THE HORSE (Thousands of words)  It is not the done thing to tie Horses to the Float to prevent escape but with one of those you can and you should. I would tie him to the front chest rail when he is still yet to step onto the very base of the ramp. Then he can still run about but cannot escape. Fix that and you fix the Horse because I can vouch for the fact that your main problem is the Halter lightness of the Horse and because he knows he can now run through your hands. Learned evasions are many. You watch the look on his face after a couple of hang backs :) Use a neck strap if you like but you have to have rope Halters!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi John,
In the near future, I'm considering relocating my 6yo QH gelding to a nearby property where my daughter keeps her horse. For various reasons it is not possible to shift my daughter's horse to where I agist.
My horse is currently the alpha male of a mixed group of about six mares and one other gelding, which is a subsection of a larger herd of about 45 horses.
He usually rides out on the trails ok on his own, and he sometimes follows me to the stalls at liberty when I collect him from the paddock. So I guess separation anxiety is not a huge problem, although he does call out to find his herd when I place him back in the paddock.
If I do decide to move, will there be any stress on him being permanently taken away from his herd, and are there ways to minimise any negative impacts or make the transition easier?
Also, his current agistment facility is around 350 acres split up into 4 main paddocks. The new agistment site would be 50 acres total, and is sectioned into about a dozen shared paddocks varying from a couple of acres to 10 acres maximum.
Will the reduction in paddock size be an issue for him, if there is plenty of feed available?
I just want to do the best thing by my horse, and not put my own convenience above his well-being.
Thanks ~ John F

No John, he will adapt fine. Yes he will run around and yell out a bit but he will get over it. Especially if he has your Daughter's Horse with him. They have to handle it and they do. Regards

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Hi John,
I think you will appreciate this article explaining how in the origins of dressage a loose, droopy rein was considered the norm.
http://www.artofnaturaldressage.com/viewtopic.php?t=521&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


cheers
tim

Most interesting Tim :) Total vindication hahaha. Thanks

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Hey you! Houston I have a problem. I have found with Red if he takes a fright when I am on the ground leading him he vertually jumps on me for safety. He usually does this when walking him after doing his girth up , I prepare myself by having my arm out in his direction to tell him "back off". But he still tries. Yesterday, while for our walk, something spooked him and he rammed right through me and then turning in front of me. I have this morning a huge piece of skin missing down my ankle bone where his hoof collected my leg, that is how close he gets ( I was wearing boots also!). He rarely shies don't get me wrong , but he has this habbit when he does on ground. What should I do.

cheers
chelle

Get more respect Chelle. He needs a tune up on the ground and you may need to go to an 11 :) He is symptomatic of all of the Horses that are led in earlier days "By the beard" They all leap in your lap. I fix those inside 20 seconds and do it almost every day. Just tune up your Parelli and when you lead him, send him back behind you at least two metres. When he gets a fright, you will grow instantly 10 foot tall, throw your arms in the air, the rope will whip back with the loop snaking and hitting him beneath the chin with the clip and problem fixed. The Power of Ground Manners lies in us being right down a rope.  Regards

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Hello Mr. HP,
I would like to thank Lodge Ropes and yourself for the article on rope halters, I am going to contact them and see if they can help with my knot dyslexia. Then get the 7 games dvd.
I want to update Elvis's feed and someone told me about a website about feeding horses with food from the pantry, ie pumpkin but they cannot remember the name. Or maybe try Herbal Horse (there are so many selling herbs and natural feed now) or Nerida Richards?
Also in May Elvis had to be drenched 3 times, first went ok, second time I was standing in the wrong place and got knocked on the knee when he bunny hopped backwards and third time the vet said "o no his got a nose bleed" thought to myself its not that bad, only a few drops and then it started pouring and bubbling (thought I was going to be sick!). Vet said it should stop in 2 hours, if not stopped by morning he would give Elvis something to clot blood.
I felt so bad for the poor horse went to house and got ice pack and put it in middle of his head and after a few minutes it started to slow the flow. Within 15 minutes it had completely stopped. Elvis still hasn't forgiven me yet.
Thanks for your great site, Angela

Well done Angela :) Forget all the fancy feeds and don't get "Paralysis of the Analysis" Angela. Good Cereal Hay, Lucerne Hay and a good Pellet that is designed for the age and performance of the Horse. Over the years, we have met a number of "way out there" people who have brought Horses here. They generally come with a set of scales and weigh out all of these additives and minerals as if in a Laboratory. We have not seen one of those Horses that have been looking right. They are crack pots as far as I am concerned. Feed Horses good plain tucker and you won't go wrong. Regards

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Hi John,
I have a 5yr old clydie warmblood cross mare, I have been riding her since she was 2and1/2 she has had lots of trail riding and some lessons in jumping and flat work. I have inclined to do less and less in the arenas and Jumping as she is getting more and more resistant. I am worried that it is the saddle that is the problem. She is showing some signs of wrong fit such as white hair on her back, not near the wither area, but a bit further back where you wouldn't expect a saddle to cause a problem. She is resisting canter in a menage but is happy to canter out on the trail, she is also trying to buck when I ask her to canter even on the trail. some of this behavior is I think just a "bit of fun"
as she does it in the paddock also. I have had the saddle checked by different accredited saddle fitters and they all say it's not perfect but it is pretty close. The problem I think is that she is wide but long and a bit bum high so it creates a dip and a bit of a space under the saddle at the back. I wonder if the saddle could actually be rocking. I am worried as I think she is the type of horse that would put up with a lot of pain. I have had her checked regularly by a very experienced tension release therapist and she has never been sore in the back and I can dig my fingers in anywhere along her back with no reaction. she is not girthy or cold backed. and is quite happy at walk. I have tried different saddles on her but none seem to fit perfectly. she is inclined to want to trot with her head in the air which could also be part of the problem.

regards
Joanne

I don't know Joanne but and can generally comment that the Australian Stock Saddle that I see on your Bay Horse, never did fit any Horse imho. I think that is why the Australian Army had their own saddles designed for the War. They are nothing like the Stock Saddle. We put up with them but I never liked them. Finally and thank Goodness, the Half Breed has arrived and that is the answer. The other thing that I have found and learnt over the years is about Saddle Blankets./  I too used to use that one you have on the Bay. Kersey Wool, top of the range. I no longer use them either and have gone to the Neoprene under saddle blanket that you just Hose off after a ride and a Softer, more fitting Western Saddle Pad than the one you have on the other Bay, which I also have in the shed as well. It is too stiff. The other major problem I found with the Kersey Blanket is that the Hem at the back puts enormous pressure across the back bone of the Horses and they all should be cut about 4 inches each side of the back bone with an inch deep V and re stitched. To remove the pressure. You definitely have a problem there. That Horse would not lie to you. Regards

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Hi HP

I will apologise in advance for the length of this enquire, but I have several questions to ask you. Firstly my 13 year old daughter has a young mare. We bought her 2 days before EI struct. The mare is only 5 and had been turned out on her own for the previous 12 months. At the time this didnt bother us because we thought we could get her out and about quickly to socialise her, with EI obviously we couldnt. We have now started taking her out and she gets very upset when around a group of other horses. She is fine if either one of us or her paddock mate are with her but goes mental if left near other horses on her own. When we take her out and she starts this we just leave her in the stall alone (keeping a descrete eye on her) until she calms down. Is this the right thing to do or should we stay with her and make sure she stays calm?

I presume you mean at a Show???? In that case, I would tie her to the Float and let her get over herself. Keep exposing her and she will lighten up. If you are talking about "leading her" at a Show, then the Handler must be equipped with the necessary Halter/ground control techniques to be able to make the HOrse stand and again, soak up the atmosphere. I mean the 7 Games and the right equipment. That would mean similar to Chelle above.

Next question: My daughter is a capable but nervous rider. She has had some nasty falls in the past and has seen me have a couple of bad falls too (not off this horse I must add) but off the one we owned prior to her. This mare is very quiet and has been well broken. She has a lovely mouth, with good front brakes and a good lateral mouth. She responds imediately to the ORS. The problem is that the mare is only 14hh and is quite finely built. My daughter has been riding her in an all purpose saddle but wants to start riding her in a stock saddle. The stock saddle is double in weight to the all purpose. Will the extra weight hurt the mare or should it not make that much difference?

Not a problem.

I only have a few more questions for you for now. I have an 11 year old autistic son who loves to ride. He is riding a 12.2hh pony at the moment and is doing very well. He will soon outgrow this pony so we are starting to look for a new horse for him. I thought of trying to find a standard breed. If I can find one under 15hh, but have met a lot of resistance from the powers that be. My son also likes to do some jumping, but we have been told that standies dont like to jump. What do you think? Would a standie suit him or should I be looking for something else?

Go the Standie and they are out there at 14 hands even. The Powers don't know what they are talking about as they jump like stags :) Check the last Horse here.



Thank you for your time and advice. We are big fans of your site and my daughter in particular is often quoteing Mr HP.
Regards
Sue

Wish her the best of Luck for me x

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Day Off.

THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES

I am about to have my first "Night of the long knives" here on the property and eject certain of my so called "lovely agistees'" If I don't, Mrs. HP is going to empty the place completely :) Why is it that Mrs. HP can ride 7 Horses, teach 2 or three lessons, feed 20 horses, clean 7 yards per day and one owner Horse people cannot or are too bloody lazy to properly look after their only  one? What the? Why is that the more you do for people, the better they have it, the less they appreciate things? Why is it that there are "World Experts" among them on every subject from Brain Surgery to Rocket Science but they leave their Horse locked in a yard all week and WON'T BLOODY LUNGE IT????????????????????????? What is that???? Do they need a token like you hang on a chain? Just to have the knowledge that they "own a Horse" and can tell everyone "they own a Horse"? Is it so that it gives them a ticket to go on Internet Forums and knock the Hell out of Horse Professionals as if they were perfect and the Tall Poppies were not? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Watch this space

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I promised a Gentleman an article on the rope Halter last night. Here it is:

ROPE HALTERS - a Halter Makers perspective

STRAIGHTNESS

I asked my wife today over lunch, how many Horses that come through our hands, including 'Breakers' are one sided and if not ridden correctly or 'STRAIGHT' going forward, will develop Veterinary problems by Riding. 40% she answered. I would have to agree with that and of late, thought it could be higher.

'Straightness' is a description of how the Horse travels when ridden flat work.

There are two Schools of thought regarding how soon you can start to teach 'straightness' to a 'Green Horse' You can see on the Scale that it is a fair way down the list but that depends on the ability of the Rider for if they can get rhythm, relaxation and contact sooner, rather than later, 'straightness' is highly important. It is for this reason then that Mrs. HP starts to ride it after 7 days on average as she achieves the first three markers on the scale in that short time.

All Horses are born one sides but some more than others. It is those that fall into the suspect category and if not ridden 'straight' will deteriorate through their muscle formation to a point where they start to experience Rider educed pain and discomfort which they then quickly start compensating for and the list of tactics that they use to then exploit a Rider is most admirable indeed. Few know what they are up to as they don't have the knowledge and training and such subjects as this have never been put before their minds but the Horse is an absolute genius in subtly exploiting a Rider so as to find ways to compensate for encroaching muscle soreness.

and so it is that perceived 'Problems' start and we get Owners' sending their "Naughty Horse" to the Problem Horse Trainer, which is why we see so much of this and are in tune with the subject.

"Straightness' imho, ranks as one of the most important of the steps on the German Training Scale and the subject is an immense one but for my Novice Owner Readers, it basically means that whilst being ridden, the Horse keeps it's back feet landing in the line of the hoof prints made by the front feet preceding. Therefore, if the Horse is traveling on a line, be it a straight line if ridden down the long side of an arena, the left two hooves are landing on the left of the line and right two on the right side. On the Circle, the same applies. Any deviation of this, unless requested, is termed as 'crooked'

Given that we are all one sided or the other, in the case of the Horse when a Rider starts to demand early on that the Horse travel 'straight' that is the time when objection commences but it is far easier to fix the rules and the way of going early in the piece than later for the longer you ride one 'crooked' or in their preferred way of travel as they compensate for not being born perfectly equal and balanced, the more difficult it is and the more objection you will get. Further, more Veterinary indicators will be exhibited.

So it is such a shame that this subject is not mentioned at least to the young Riders or taught more by some Coaches. There would be far more sound Horses out there if it were.

 

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LETTERS OF THE DAY

Hi John
In my search for a new float I came across your website. I have found it very informative. When I finally pick a company that I like I then have to have all the "added extras" put onto the float to make it safe. These things should be mandatory safety specs for all floats and then the extras should be luxury accessories like slide out saddle rack. In your opinion is there a company that is performing better than others in regards to safety design. My horse is a scrambler (who know what happened in her previous lives) so I now take out centre divider and she floats herself on an angle (she is a big girl 16.3hh wb) this isn't ideal I know or really safe but the only option for me until I purchase another float and sell my old one.
Thanks again for all your great research
Regards
Karen

None of them have gone "The Full Monty" Karen and most have had to be dragged kicking and screaming by their Clients who have gone in with new ideas after reading that article. The best anti scramble Float of course is the JR and that was designed by a Horseman however a few years ago I was asked to comment on the Float by the Manufacturer and he got his nose right out of joint when I gave him my assessment so they are not easy. Go figure being in business and not jumping on information? Buyer demands will of course drive the Industry and there have been changes in roof height as a result of my article so that has been good. Your Horse needs a minimum of 2250mm, not what most  Manufacturers think. Best of Luck

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Hi John,
I know that you cannot remember all the people you have emailed you so I will just give you a brief reminder however it will not matter. Just know that you and Linda have made all the difference.

I bought a 4 year old Fjord mare. Hobbled as per you dvd and hobbles, mouthed as per your dvd, roller and running reins, riding the green horse as per your dvd, leg yielding in 2 days as per your dvd. Not to mention also, inside leg to outside rein dvd and above the bit dvd and balance at canter dvd. These have been unbelievable in their instruction for all of my horses. Can’t recommend them enough.
I asked for your help regarding no right lateral on trail ride and you gave instructions. I am still finding that the right lateral is, as your expression “up yours”and still an issue and this is now relating to the right yielding. Using the spurs as per your instructions on the dvd and also as you mentioned on the dvd, if there is no yielding, right lateral and disengage. This is now day 5 and we are at logger heads. I might add that we are also had an issue of being “stuck” in the first lessons on the right yielding and as you said, DON”T GET STUCK or stop, just move on and start again. Spurs have not made a big impression so I tap tap TAP with a dressage whip at the same time as my leg just behind my heel. Did get a reaction but no yeilding Unfortunately I need you impute, please.

Mental block Kim. Go back to the ground and teach it with 'Hot fingers' Get it spot on. Then just sit on the Horse and stand still. Teach a turn on the forehand and using your fingers if you have to. REMEMBER!! If the Horse moves half an inch, give the release and reward. Then later, transfer to your spur (blunt) and simulate your finger only. See how you go.

I must add that I broke this young horse in because of your prompting (as I was going to send her to you) and I will say that as a nervous over somethingorother year old, this is far the quietest, boldest horse I have ever had the privilege of riding. I do not have an ounce of fear (remarkable) when riding her. Not that she is a complete angel but I only have to prompt her when she is in doubt and off she goes. THANK YOU and LINDA so much.
Also, I have Lindas German scale dvd (way ahead of myself, nonetheless, so very informative and can only help me to understand). Just wondering when the “straightness” dvd will become available, and could you please advise of any progress on the western saddle you are going to sell. Is the “track to dressage” any good for me or do I have the whole kit and caboodle.
I will be placing an order for the snaffle strap and long reins but just before I do just needed to know if there was anything else.
An epic, I’m sorry.
In appreciation

Kim.

Linda is going back to filming this week on that DVD as it is essential but for what you are doing, I can't see that you need any of them. The OTTB one is not for you. It depends on whether you are going to be doing flatwork or not. If pleasure riding, no. If flatwork, the straightness DVD will be most valuable to all. Did you know that 40% of all Horses that come through our hands, unbroken or not, have a potential Veterinary Problem waiting if not RIDDEN STRAIGHT??? Congratulations on your Breaking in your own Horse Kim. Unreal :)

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14th July, 2008

Day Off.

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Aust rider's Olympic appeal dismissed


Australian event rider Wendy Schaeffer has lost her appeal against non-nomination to the 2008 Olympic Team.
The appeal was dismissed at a hearing on Thursday before the EFA Appeal Tribunal.

Schaeffer had appealed on the ground that the applicable nomination criteria and in particular the subjective nomination criteria had not been properly followed and/or implemented.

 Schaeffer argued that selectors had focused too much on dressage performances as opposed to cross-country and show jumping results.

The Appeal Tribunal commended Schaeffer on the quality of the presentation of her appeal.

At 21, Schaeffer was the youngest woman to have won a gold medal, at the Atlanta Olympic games in 1996.

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Chuckwagon horse fatally injured at Calgary rodeo

A chuckwagon horse was euthanised after suffering injuries during a race at Canada's famous Calgary Stampede rodeo on Wednesday night.
The accident happened in a heat of the chuckwagon race, when one wagon bumped into another. After the race a veterinarian found serioues injuries on the left foreleg of a horse belonging to Reg Johnstone.

When collisions occur a vet check of the horses involved is standard practice.

The driver whose team bumped Johnstone's team, Rae Croteau Jr, was penalized 10 seconds and fined $2500 in the collision, and under new rules introduced this year also has to pay Johnstone $10,000 for the loss of his horse.

The accident is still under investigation.

Last year, three chuckwagon horses were killed in a crash, and the year before, in a chuckwagon race, a horse had a heart attack and fell, breaking the leg of another horse.

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Rising trot may not ease burden on horse backs


A Dutch study has not been able to confirm the traditional belief that rising trot is less demanding than a sitting trot for the horse.
The rising trot, long thought to ease the burden on a horse's back, may not be as beneficial as first thought.
Scientists from Wageningen University in the Netherlands, led by Professor Johan van Leeuwen, used specialist equipment to assess the impacts of certain riding techniques on horses.

Their gear included special horseshoes able to measure acceleration forces and specialised force gauges to record the strain on the backs of horses exerted through the saddle and stirrups.

These measurements, combined with computer modelling, provided insight into the mechanisms that a rider can use to respond to the movements of a horse, and to prevent injury.

The shoes were also used in further research to determine what rider techniques may be helpful in reducing reducing injury risk to the horse - important given that a significant number of equine injuries result from the pressure exerted by riders.

The research indicated a rising trot may not be as advantageous as previously thought.

"We have given particular attention to the comparison of sitting and rising trot, as it is broadly accepted in the equestrian world that rising trot imposes less loading on the back of the horse," said Professor van Leeuwen.

"However, our results have not been able to confirm the belief that rising trot is mechanically less demanding for the horse.

"Looking at back extension, which is most often related to back injuries, we found that the extension of the back is similar in rising and sitting trot."

The specialist shoes were also used to determine whether "aquatraining" is beneficial in treating joint injuries in horses because it reduces impact forces.

Rehabilitation after equine joint or muscle injuries, including the back, shoulders and legs, often involve aquatraining, where horses move in water-filled treadmills.

The buoyancy is thought to reduce weight-bearing forces, which might harm recovering joints, but to date there has been few studies into the perceived benefits.

The work on aquatraining rehabilitation revealed significantly lower impact accelerations during working, suggesting it is beneficial to joint recovery.

Professor van Leeuwen said further work would be carried out to confirm these results.

Results of the researchers' work were presented this week at the Society for Experimental Biology's Annual Meeting in Marseille.

This work involved collaboration with the Department of Equine Sciences, Utrecht University, the Mary Anne McPhail Equine Performance Centre, Michigan State University and the Dutch Equestrian Centre.

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Top Dutch Olympic hope breaks leg


Albert Zoer on top Olympic hope Oki Doki.
Just days after winning the prestigious Grand Prix of Aachen, Dutch showjumper Albert Zoer has broken his leg and put his Olympic chances in jeopardy.
Zoer, 32, was schooling a young horse on Tuesday when he fell and broke his left leg. He was operated on later that day. His sister, Gina Zoer, said the operation went well with no complications. She said he was in pain and would be for a few days. He was expected to return home on Saturday.

"He is one of the pillars of the Orange quartet for the Olympic Games in Hong Kong," said the Royal Netherlands Equestrian Union. "It is too early to say whether he will be fully recovered in time (to participate)."

Zoer won the Grand Prix of Aachen on Sunday, with the KWPN gelding Sam, and thus claimed his second Grand Prix victory within two weeks.

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Trackwork rider banned after hitting filly

A trackwork rider in Australia has been banned for whipping a young filly during a training session.
Rahul Talukdar, 26, came back from work "flogged and in a distressed state", said Sydney trainer Tim Martin, who has sacked the Indian-raised rider. He has also been banned for three months by stewards for excessive use of the whip.

The Daily Telegraph reported that the filly, Miss Purrdy, "had giant welts on both hindquarters and a cut to the head where she had reared up and tumbled over on concrete at the end of the fierce track gallop." The incident occurred at Rosehill in late June.

Talukdar claims he did not do anything wrong, and said he whipped the filly three to five times.

Martin was away at the time of the incident but said the welts were still visible that night.

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UK launches horse show code of practice


If a show organiser finds that a competitor is in breach of the Code, they will then have firm grounds to issue a formal warning or disqualify that individual from their classes.
The British Horse Society and the British Equestrian Federation's Welfare Group have launched a voluntary code of practice to set out acceptable welfare standards for horses at shows and events.
The Code was devised as a result of concerns reported to the BHS Welfare Department regarding the treatment of horses at shows, and feedback from show organisers who often feel unable to act when welfare breaches are reported to them.

"We often receive calls to our welfare hotline about incidents at shows but there is rarely anything we can do, as the calls arrive after the event," said BHS Welfare Senior Executive Lee Hackett.

"From discussions with show organisers we've found that they often feel powerless to take action, as there have previously been no clear standards set.

"Hopefully, these guidelines will provide the back-up that show organisers need as well as making things clear for competitors and, most importantly, improving horse welfare."

Although the Code of Practice was originally intended for use solely at unaffiliated shows, it has now been adopted by many of the members of the BEF Welfare Group and is the first key development to come out of this innovative new body.

British Dressage Chief Executive, David Holmes said: "As part of our role we are keen to work with unaffiliated Dressage to improve riders' competitive experience and enjoyment across the whole sport. This Code of Practice aims to support show organisers in running good quality shows and we're delighted to offer the BHS Welfare department our input and support with this initiative."

Lee Hackett went on to say: "The BHS is delighted that so many BEF member bodies are backing this Code of Practice. Hopefully this will be the first of many collaborative initiatives to improve horse welfare."

The Code includes guidelines on all aspects of the welfare of horses at events such as transport, use of the whip, conduct in and out of the show ring and the provision of feed, water and shelter. If a show organiser finds that a competitor is in breach of the Code, they will then have firm grounds to issue a formal warning or disqualify that individual from their classes. In severe cases, individuals may be asked to leave the showground or be reported to a welfare agency.

The BHS Code of Practice for the Welfare of Horses and Ponies at Events is available to download from the BHS website. Show organisers are invited to state that their event is being run under the BHS Code and request that competitors read the full code. A shorter version is also available and could be incorporated into show schedules.
 

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LETTER OF THE DAY

EDUCATING HORSE OWNERS

Once again thank you. The more involved we are becoming in the horse world (and now pony club with our children) the more astounded we are that no one really teaches you how to care and understand for your horse. It is as if the whole world revolves only about riding. Maybe we are weird but we like to understand as much as possible what is going on inside their head, and the best way to communicate with them, and how you care for them can influence their behaviour. There is not a lot of information out there about that.

You have made a difference to our lives, you have converted a whole family (middle aged though we maybe) and have helped us enjoy and be able to do something we have always wanted – ride, and own horses

Kind regards

Stephen and Gina

I was only asked about this two days ago and it is a mind boggling thought, isn't it? It is the in fact the foundation stone for a lack of "Horse Welfare" and the trigger for "Cruelty to Horses" that is rife throughout this Country and caused by the Horse Industry Peak Bodies NOT seeing that anyone is taught the things that matter.

I started this website for one reason only. To try and undo the wrong that I was having to deal with on a daily basis, because I saw the Internet as a fabulous Educational Tool of the future. I was therefore the first to have a blog on the Planet. The word Blog hadn't been thought of when I started.

How difficult would it be Stephen and Gina? With the stroke of a Pen, the President of the Pony Club Association of Australia, the EFA or the Horse Industry Council, could instigate a proper Curriculum for the young, those entering the Horse Industry and so on. Not "Rocket Science' Are they blind?, deaf? How dare they prepare and send thousands of Mouth Rippers out to terrorize the Hell out of Horses, without ever teaching them how to look after the Animal, let alone what Horses need to be Happy under Saddle?

Just last week, I saw a Blackhill Pony Club person drive out of my driveway with a Horse in the Float, the fastest I have personally witnessed in my 15 years of living here. It is a 90 degree turn onto an 80k road. In fact, this is what triggered the conversation here in the first place. So anyone can go buy a '500kg Lethal Weapon", put it in a Tin Can on Wheels, without any education whatsoever. Oh, and I forgot, not be taught how to feed the poor Bugga. How bout that? What a Mickey Mouse Industry this still is?

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LETTERS OF THE DAY
 

Hi Ya John,
Well we are going ahead in leaps and bounds but unfortunately literally so I will try and be brief and see if you can help me fix this problem
When I first bring Ivy in for her work out on the running reins I put the roller on and lunge her as she had always been a very girthy type although after the first week of work she stopped reacting but has now come to bucking,I am 1 that has always liked to lunge first to get any sting out of the horse before I ask anything for 2 reasons 1. because she is a baby,rising 2 and 2nd because she is fed grain so I expect her to feel fresh and good.Now before I go further maybe this is the beginning of my mistake by letting her lunge around kicking her heals up.After she settles I then attach the running reins and ask her to work which she does but now and again she decided to fly around a few laps and buck but because she has the running reins on I can't ask for the 1 rein stop.So my question is (as she knows what the 1 rein stop is) do I go back to square 1 and lunge without the reins and re establish the 1 rein stop but my thought is as she knows she can buck when the reins are on will she just go back to it even if I do take the step back with her or do I take my chance and get on her and fix the problem with the 1 rein stop on her back.As I am trying to sell Ivy (stating she is ready to back) I have to be honest and tell people she can buck which of course puts them off straight away so if I am able to get on her and correct it then that will help my chances...My biggest concern is she is,how you would put it a suspect one and she WILL try and that is a bit nerve racking.
So how would you suggest I fix this with Ivy.
Again your advise is 110% appreciated and I know you have the answer.

Kind Regards
Wendy and Ivy
P.S.Ivy's neck is looking better and better everyday so this is helping heaps.

I wouldn't be worried about that Wendy. She is unbroken so who cares?? I presume you are selling her unbroken so why does it matter? I ignore exuberance during the warm up phase of any lunging task but once the job commences, I rarely see it and if I do, it is virtually always attitude. You are therefore best off utilizing her attitude and turning it into a training opportunity and I will immediately step across and turn such a Horse on the fence, KNOWING FULL WELL that it will turn with it's rump to me. Instantly, I go to my "hid your bum" exercise and turn and turn the Horse and join up. End of attitude and end of bucking. Regards

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Hi John

Hope all is well there

Quiet here...

Had a call from a lady with a problem horse the other day. He wouldn’t stand still to have rugs changed or anything done in fact...barged thru/over her...ran past her on the lead and charged at her in the paddock!!

Went to have a look at him and once again he was a really nice intelligent horse who had his owner just where he wanted her. He was the leader and she was the follower. I think it took me 2 minutes to put him back in his box (he was smart enough to work out that I meant business and in fact I watched him assessing me as we walked out to catch him...he did keep trying the boundaries...although very subtlety) but it never ceases to amaze me how smart horses are, how well they read body language and how quickly the intelligent ones will exploit a weak/insecure/unknowledgeable owner and respect a confident handler. I wish owners would take the time to learn a bit of horsemanship...I see a lot of people spending lots of money and time learning to ride when they have not even got basic horsemanship skills!! The worst thing is the horse often looses out in these situations...this lady had been told by friends that she should “dog” this horse because he was so dangerous. I’m not joking John...within 2 minutes of confident handling this horse was reasonably well behaved (he wasn’t and angel and he did forget himself occasionally) but certainly did NOT need to go to the “dogger”. Ignorant people....


Anyway the owner has told me that this horse has started to buck ... so he is coming here for re-mouthing and then I will teach her the ORS as well as some exercises to hopefully put her in the boss position.

Take care

Josie

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Trainers the World over soon start mouthing those words Josie. Welcome to the frustration :) Part of the job description I suppose. Well done though and I have no doubt you will do the job.......on the horse as well hahaha

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Hi Mr. HP, I am wanting to go from a web halter to rope, but on the website you recommend they say not for notice. Where can I learn to use the rope lead and halter?
I also have trouble with knots, the riding school (bought horse from there when it closed down 10 years ago) I went to tried to teach me the quick release know for hay net and I couldn't even get that! lol
Is there a length that I can use for leading and lunging?
Also horse (17years old) has been on the same feed that was recommended by the riding school when we bought him, can you suggest somewhere that doesn't just want to sell their brand and is close to natural as possible.
As you can tell I am a non horse person with no horse people nearby.
Thank you very much for your help, Angela
P.S. Are you going to put up some pics of "Paris"!

I'll put together an article that I got Lodgeropes to write for me some time ago and forgot about it.  Watch this space.

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Hi John and Linda,
Remember over dinner we were telling you about the huge horse that was coming to be restarted. Well, he arrived yesterday and is ENORMOUS. He's a Holsteiner/Hannovarian cross so is built too.

We roughly measured him at just over 18hh! Luckily he's an absolute gentleman to do everything with, so far anyway! Fred did need a bucket to vault on this one.

Anyway, we thought you might like a few pictures.Hope you are both well. Talk soon, Rach and Fred.

Wow. I had one of those a couple of years ago as well. Hope you have a parachute :)

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HI Guys

I have just been on your website, and although I am not in WA (i am in Vic) I thought I would drop you a quick email and see if you have any suggestions.
I currently own a 12yr old TB gelding, i have owned him for approx 4-5mths and things were going great.
over the past month Mav has started one very bad habit that I really dont know how to correct, it appears my coach is at a loss aswell. mav is generally very trying and loves to please, he generally works in a lovely frame as he knows where he has to be.
above a month ago he started grabbing at the bit and tossing his head in the air and leaving it there, he hasnt done it quite so bad as the first time however after about 30mins of work he starts it again, it only appears to be on the left rein, i have had a couple of peoples opinions and i am certainly not hard in the contact whatsoever, i tend to be quite light and work off my legs and seat not rein.
i realise it is hard when you cant see a horse in work, but thought it was worth a go sending this email through

if you have any suggestions, have come across this before I would greatly appreciate any feedback you may have.

thanks again for your time

Hanna

Lol Hanna. I am in SA :) It appears that what is a fact Hanna is that there is definitely something wrong with the Horse and he is telling you. I would suspect breathing problems (take careful note and test the Horse) or Sacroiliac problems for this is one of the signs and they will do anything to have their head up in the air. Go investigate all of that. Don't send my underlined writing again Hanna. Ta




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13th July, 2008

Life doesn't get any less busy I am afraid.

This bloke went home today and he carried his young owner all around the District in very responsible fashion today.

He had a very long drive in the Float so I hope he got home safely.

and have started mouthing the young Riding Pony who I have named 'Paris" Similar head but the Pony is better :) One of our agisters keeps asking me when I am going to 'ride Paris' but I think I will change her name before that time comes :)

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Mrs. HP has been traveling to Lessons both days of this weekend, with the lovely Ricky McMillan. I have been busy connecting all of my rain water tanks to the troughs and fitting float valves. Praying at each stable that the Horse doesn't demolish the installation.

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GIVE AWAY HORSE

The Lady with the give away Appy. Can you please contact me as I have a taker. Thanks

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HORSE ACCIDENT

Terrible to hear about a poor South Australian Lady who had a fall during a lesson and is in a very serious condition indeed. Our thoughts are with her.

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LETTER OF THE DAY

Hi Mrs. HP:
I searched the net and found your videos of Midnight, which I watched with great interest to detail.
I am a Parelli student here in the USA. I have passed level 2 into level 3. I started this path (after having Arabians for 27 years who trained just fine with me) because this mare dumped me by spooking and spinning so quick I did not know what hit me. She would not go forward, would pull back, did not want you to pet her, and would never blink or lick or chew much. She is what the call in Parelli and "introverted" horse, and I do believe this to be true.
Your video of Midnight was My horse, Maya, almost exactly. Except my mare will use the evasion of starting to spook at a speck of dirt that is a 1/4 mile away instead of focusing on the task at hand. She used to canter somewhat OK (always uneven) but then started to not take leads, ETC. Now that I am in level 3, and can ask for a "soft feel: (ha-ha!) she is having absolute tantrums. Especially canter work.
I finally told my Parelli teacher this is ridiculous (I have a background in basic dressage) she is doing anything and everything to evade working and started to do some basic dressage things. We still argue, but I do win the argument. I wish I could be as soft an unemotional as you exhibit on your video with Midnight. Amazingly when not allowed to, she stopped the spooking and will take her leads.
Yesterday I had a parelli lesson, mare wanted to argue with canter, instructor said you can't just keep that collected of a feel, she is claustrophobic and needs the reins a bit. Of course we were attempting to do canter serpentines, it was a mess. Mare taking wrong lead, throwing herself everywhere, evading my leg, ETC. would not go in a straight line for goodness sakes!
I am seriously discouraged with Parelli at the moment. I have watched Pat Parelli and don't for a moment believe he would allow this behavior in his horse. AM I on the right track ??
I appreciate your time.
Sincerely with blessings,
Kathy
Escondido, CA. UNITED STATES
BTW, I noticed my mare also turns her head like Midnight to the outside (not particularly paying attention) on the lunge circle. Although she has better ground skills than Midnight.

Hi Kathy. The fact is though that the best Canter lead Horses are the most collected of all :) The Grand Prix Horses lol. This a very interesting letter!

Your Horse has either physical or mental Problems or both. True? So how can it be NH to persist without getting to the bottom of what is wrong with the Horse? Why would any one rule out trying other systems and methods in an attempt to get the Horse back on track and to help it or as an investigatory option???? I call that "Paralysis of the Analysis" :) I would be very interested to see this Horse. Can you put video on Youtube for us to see??? Then we could give a far more considered opinion Kathy. I find this a very useful tool these days. I have watched the Parelli leads video very briefly and found it entertaining and to be a very long way indeed from proper flying changes training. Perhaps your Horse is confused????? Is she screaming out for help, direction, consistency?????? They are always communicating with us. Every moment of every ride. I had one do it today. Read this and think about it in your assessment. Regards

STIFLE PROBLEMS, THEIR RESULTS & TREATMENT

This subject is so complex that we are about to film another Podcast on another aspect of it.

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LETTERS OF THE DAY

Hi

Yesterday I went to pick up a horse to trial. He didn't want to get on the
float at all. We tried our float and the owners float with no avail. We tried
for over an hour to get him up, but it got to the stage where we had to
quit or the horse was going to get hurt, he was too worked up to even
think. We tried bribery, bum rope, tapping with whips and sticks, moving
the centre partition, so many things, but he'd almost get up there and
then shoot back. The owners said he'd never done that before, he had
always gone up first go, but the last time he was in the float, the centre
partition fell on him, and was like that the whole way home. The look he
had in his eyes was not of fear, but determination not to go up there.
Can you think of an idea that might get him up on the float? The people
who own him are definitely telling the truth, or otherwise they would have
already offered to bring him over themselves.
So far, nothing is working and I'm really desperate to help them
because he is a great horse.

Thanks,

Marissa

Hi Marissa. Every system of float loading depends upon the expertise of the Handler. I can come there and load your Horse and so can most other Professional Trainers. When you get a Horse that is so fearful or suspicious of going back on (and you can't blame the Horse at all) the degree of difficulty normally exceeds that of all Amatuer's. I therefore recommend the Jeffreys Method which is found here: LOADING AND FLOATING OF THE HORSE (Thousands of words)but:

Move the Float into a raceway between sheds or whatever else you can dream up and there is something on every property. Then, two people following that system, WILL load the Horse. Regards

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Hi

I have a 5yr old QH mare and when you leave the farm and go out to another farm for mustering or whatever as soon as you take her out of float and put her in new surroundings in a new yard or wherever she does that side ways fence walk for about 10 steps then back up the fence and then back the other way! She does stop after about 15mins-30mins. I have a complete lack of patience for it.I have never had a horse that I owned that does that before in my life. I will yell out and she will stop.She bloody knows! She only does it when worried as she is a little worry wart.Never met a QH like her.
I felt while watching her that I have to be at fault here to as I think coz shes a worry wart I needed to make her extra bolder and therefore get her out and about more to make her relax.
I have then taken this idea on. Got her going through rivers while chasing stock and shes really come together in her mind over the past
3 weeks. I am so impressed with horses that can overcome a habit just because we instill bolder and harder ridng.

Also I have done hobbles on her as soon as she starts.Then take them off.

Thats my story.
Cheers
Amber

Well done Amber. It is amazing how a Rider can instill confidence into a Horse that will transfer to it's overall every day life? Yes, rarely would you meet a QH that did that. I too hate it with a passion :(

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. I have found over the years that all the young ones want to put their heads down and then wrap the lead around their head and then usually panic. I have found that I have had to tie many of them up quite short for some time and have let it longer over time as they became more and more accustomed to being tied up. Just wondering if this is a common problem? What is the best way to deal with it?
Thanks
Leisha

The problem there is caused by two things Leisha.

  • Incorrect height of tie up rail for the particular Horse

  • Tying too long.

Tying long is an absolute 'No. No." and is the cause of all things dangerous. This is a complex subject and I could write you 5,000 words right now. Here are a couple of picks of lengths of rope for varying height rail or Horse. Regards and thanks.

Short for this dangerous pull back Horse short for these little ones

Correct length for this Horse on this rail Dangerous

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Dear Mr. HP,
Hi my name is Natalia & i am 15 years old i have a pure arab gelding
that i wish to ride in endurance but he is not moving properly & that is not
like him so we had an equine vet check him, she does not know what is wrong
with him. We have used your sand colic remedy & we have also used a natural remedy to get rid of kidney stones i was just wondering can your psychic lady read a horse from a photo?

My mum has bought your dvd on leg restraints & my sister & i have been using them on our horses they are wonderful for young horses to learn with. The farrier came & he was able to do one of our worst horses feet & our young foal who had not had his feet trimmed before we & the farrier are very happy with their behavior.

We would just like to thank you & Mrs. HP for doing what you do

Natalia

Thanks Natalie.  Most kind. Yes, the Psychic Lady does read them from a photo :) Her website will be up properly later this week. I have just paid her to test her systems and have been helping her build her site. Regards

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Mr HP,

I have a warmblood mare who will now quite happily walk into the float but runs backwards as soon as you try to shut the bum bar. Owners previous to me have obvisouly used whips on her to urge her into the float (she wouldnt load when I got her) and she goes ballistic if someone stands behind her to urge her in, so I am wondering whether your method of standing behind her and tapping with the whip may result in complete refusal to load or go near the float.
Do you have any other ideas about how to get her to stand in the float and let the bum bar be done up behind her? I am getting a bit desperate as I had a buyer for her who would dearly love to take her home but cant!

Cheers
Judi

I have not met a Horse where the use of any of the systems of floating that involve whips, cause the ballistic behaviour as such. More that they react because they are poor loaders and object to anyone getting a little bit serious. All of the good training systems for floating and in particular your problem which is common, involve the use of Dressage Whips, stock whips or with Parelli, the end of his lead rope with a leather flapper spinning and striking the Horse. The two best systems to fix your Horse are the Jeffreys Method and the Parelli Method. The Tom Roberts Method does not rate compared to them. Not only for your problem but for loading in general. I can even rank them for you as to the most successful on a difficult Horse:

  • Jim Wilton

  • Kel Jeffreys

  • Pat Parelli

  • War Bridle (Monty Roberts)

  • Tom Roberts

Regards

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Hi John,

I just read the letter from Dane re: cushings and wanted to offer some information as I have also been through the same dilemma….Dane, before you decide on anything do some homework on cushings – I think you might be surprised what you find (…including some information relating to the possible side effects of the dex suppression test). I too got a positive result on my mare who is about 27ish and was told that pergolide was the only way to go. The vet called me with the results and said she would leave the pergolide treatment in the shed and that I should commence ASAP. Things moved pretty fast that day – I felt sick to the stomach, was totally confused about what cushings was and what it was going to do etc but had the sense to tell the vet on the phone that I would prefer she didn’t leave the medication and I would call her to discuss if it was the course I wanted to take. I had many things to consider. After much research and talking to others with cushings horses and another vet, I decided against the medication. My decision was based on too many factors to list in this message but I am happy I chose the path I did. I am more th